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Old 05-24-2007, 03:33 PM
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Preaching against Modern Medicine??

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I am very sadden by his passing we were not close but did see each other from time to time at meetings. He has visited our church during our anniversary and I have been to his on the same. So young.
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I do NOT believe in this teaching although my wife was raised in this type of teaching and no one can really understand the mentality of this unless there is some personal involvement. These folks have their babies at home and have had many heartbreaking situations and yes deaths. So my point is if you are going to preach this to your people and them or their families suffer and even die then the honorable thing to do is to stay with it when it comes your turn. That is what this Elder did he preached it and lived it and finally died his testimony. I hope that makes this clearer? Again I do NOT believe or practice this and encourage our folks to go to the doctor.
Bro. Epley gave me permission to start this thread...

and while I know he DOES NOT believe in this doctrine...

I would akin beliefs like this more to pride than faith...

It's not scriptural... Luke was a Physician... and to say that

it's honorable to die ignorantly (not being disrespectful) just doesn't make

sense to me..

How can this be attributed to Faith?
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:41 PM
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The mindset on this issue is since divine healing is provided for in the atonement that with His stripes you are healed then to go to man(that is medical care) you are saying the stripes is not enough. At one time nearly all of Pentecost practiced this to some degree. Both Trinity and Oneness groups.
To them James 5:14 excludes doing anything else. The have their children at home with mid-wives from the church thus it is possible from cradle to the casket no one ever sees a doctor and those who die without medical attention are viewed as somewhat of a martyr or hero. I do not believe this and reject the complete thesis but I have to honor a guy who preaches it to his flock then when his time comes although in horrid pain he stays with it. My wife was raised in this type of church neither of us practice this but having been there we do understand it.
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:43 PM
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I was thinking about starting the same kind of thread but decided it wouldn't be in good taste right now, seeing as how Bro Campbell has only been dead for a couple of hours. I guess it's my fault for having brought it up in the first place though.
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:44 PM
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yes, i have known those who preach against going to doctors for any reason.
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:02 PM
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I grew up fellowshipping Brother Triplett in Racine Missourri.

He preached that same thing.

He was a man of faith and saw many miraculous healings.

He was one of a kind.

I also used tio sell him coon hides.
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:02 PM
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I was thinking about starting the same kind of thread but decided it wouldn't be in good taste right now, seeing as how Bro Campbell has only been dead for a couple of hours. I guess it's my fault for having brought it up in the first place though.
I think we can discuss the aspects with disrespecting the man...
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:03 PM
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I grew up fellowshipping Brother Triplett in Racine Missourri.

He preached that same thing.

He was a man of faith and saw many miraculous healings.

He was one of a kind.

I also used tio sell him coon hides.

Concerning a personal conviction I could appreciate that..

but what about others... children... adults... who suffered

needlessly?
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:17 PM
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Concerning a personal conviction I could appreciate that..

but what about others... children... adults... who suffered

needlessly?
I am with Elder Epley.

I disagree strongly with the doctrine, but respect those who live it to the end.

I know a very prominent pair of Pentecostal families whose children married...one family was of the no doctor persuasion.

The young lady died in childbirth.

Some years later, the old patriarch of the anti-doctor family had heart trouble, and went to the doctor and had surgery, prolonging his life.

There was a serious battle with bitterness over that.

Those are the situations I do not respect.
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:18 PM
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I am with Elder Epley.

I disagree strongly with the doctrine, but respect those who live it to the end.

I know a very prominent pair of Pentecostal families whose children married...one family was of the no doctor persuasion.

The young lady died in childbirth.

Some years later, the old patriarch of the anti-doctor family had heart trouble, and went to the doctor and had surgery, prolonging his life.

There was a serious battle with bitterness over that.

Those are the situations I do not respect.
I wanted to add, the young lady who died married into the no doctor family.

Her father preached one of the most famous sermons in the history of Pentecost.
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:20 PM
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I am with Elder Epley.

I disagree strongly with the doctrine, but respect those who live it to the end.

I know a very prominent pair of Pentecostal families whose children married...one family was of the no doctor persuasion.

The young lady died in childbirth.

Some years later, the old patriarch of the anti-doctor family had heart trouble, and went to the doctor and had surgery, prolonging his life.

There was a serious battle with bitterness over that.

Those are the situations I do not respect.
People change... understanding opens... it would seem that unforgiveness is a great a sin as pride?

This is the line where I have an issue...

and it may be a thin line.. but has legs..

When does Faith become pride..

and this can go both ways...

Concerning Healing and the Flesh..
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