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Old 07-30-2007, 09:29 PM
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Prax...

Surely you see where DA is coming from.

It is a known fact that the genesis of the blood is in the male sperm and cannot produce a child until that sperm penetrates the egg. So, if the seed is manufactured by the Holy Ghost, surely the HG did not produce fallen or Adamic seed. The HG would have produced pure seed from which the blood is derived.

I see his objections.
Ding ... ding .. ding ... its a cousin of divine flesh ...

What's ironic is to see an adherent of "divine sperm/blood" would turn around and slam preterists, PCIers, Trinnies, Twinitys, and DFers as hell-bound heretics.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:30 PM
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He's not arguing with me on that and I was not arguing with him on that. He is arguing what I said Divine Flesh advocates believe and you actually agreed with me when I posted what they believe. lol

I haven't even tried to have a discussion with Dan on that issue. If anyone wants to discuss that I am all for it. But you are confusing what Dan was saying to me and about. I was defining what HF advocates believe, from their own mouths.....you agreed and Dan disagreed...on the definition of WHAT HF advocates believe.

Another topic.
You're completely clueless.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:35 PM
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All I have been doing is saying what the HF doctrine is. Each time DA has tried to argue with me that the HF is not what I was saying it was....BS agreed with me at one point.

Second, DA just lied again about myself, my views and what I have done as far as other peoples souls
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Ding ... ding .. ding ... its a cousin of divine flesh ...

What's ironic is to see an adherent of "divine sperm/blood" would turn around and slam preterists, PCIers, Trinnies, Twinitys, and DFers as hell-bound heretics.
BTW I DON'T advocate divine sperm or blood. I never did. Nor did I ever say anyone was hell bound
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All I have been doing is saying what the HF doctrine is. Each time DA has tried to argue with me that the HF is not what I was saying it was....BS agreed with me at one point.

Second, DA just lied again about myself, my views and what I have done as far as other peoples souls
Sure ... Prax ... there's a spill in the Married Couples thread ... that needs tending.,
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:39 PM
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Sure ... Prax ... there's a spill in the Married Couples thread ... that needs tending.,
OMG Daniel, you kill me sometimes!


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BTW I DON'T advocate divine sperm or blood. I never did. Nor did I ever say anyone was hell bound
I never said you did ... but you spent some wasteful time and energy clarifying Elder E's posts on the matter.

Let's be clear please ...
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:42 PM
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I never said you did ... but you spent some wasteful time clarifying the Elder E's posts on the matter.

Let's be clear please ...
I never clarified it other than to say nobody was claiming it was DIVINE sperm...good grief.
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I never clarified it other than to say nobody was claiming it was DIVINE sperm...good grief.
No ... no ... the Elder believes it is sperm/blood created by divine hands that impregnated the virgin ... as the Word does say the life is in the blood ...
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:46 PM
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No ... no ... the Elder believes it is sperm/blood created by divine hands that impregnated the virgin ... as the Word does say the life is in the blood ...
Yes I know he does, but that is not the same as saying it is Divine sperm or Divine blood....God also created trees but nobody says they are Divine trees. Nor is it the same as what the HF doctrine asserts....which brings us right back to where you started with the accusations and lies...what do the HF people believe
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