Veil of flesh

[shazeep]

ah, ty. The A&S story still keeps me awake at night...lol

[whoiskaiser77]

Originally Posted by mfblume

The Ananias that dropped dead died before this other Ananias ministered to Paul. Notice the chapter numbers.

Acts 5:1-5 KJV But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, (2) And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet. (3) But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? (4) Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. (5) And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

Act 9:10 KJV And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord.

I think that poster was trying to be funny but thanks for explaining it.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by whoiskaiser77

I think that poster was trying to be funny but thanks for explaining it.

Ahhhh. lol

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

I have always believed that if you seek after God, He will lead you to deeper revelation. It may sometimes get done indirectly. Many think that the Lord is just going to speak in some obvious way. One of the things the Holy Ghost does is to produce fruit a.k.a. fruit of the Spirit. The fruit of the Holy Ghost produces humble and hungry hearts that are constantly eager to be taught and learn more about the Lord Jesus. The Holy Ghost never just sat down and gave me a Bible study, but it did direct me to people who would instruct me and drew me to personal study habits. Most of the time I would feel confirmation in my heart if what was being taught was valid. Keep seeking on things until the Spirit and the Word agree.

The Lord afterward prepared Annanias to expound the word of God to Paul. This is many times how the Holy Ghost works. Maybe not with a audible voice, lol. The Holy Ghost places us in environments to receive biblical truths. It is God who gets the credit no matter the servant that He uses.

Very true. The spirit working in us, and through us is able to accomplish the miraculous. But our hearts must be willing to not desire to share in the glory of the work of the spirit. That can be hard at times. But the Lord will not share His glory with another. We must always give glory and credit to the Lord for what the spirit accomplishes through us.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ah, ty. The A&S story still keeps me awake at night...lol

Well, the lol part makes me think you are not really meaning this... but if you do mean it, why? Just wondering...

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

I have always believed that if you seek after God, He will lead you to deeper revelation. It may sometimes get done indirectly. Many think that the Lord is just going to speak in some obvious way. One of the things the Holy Ghost does is to produce fruit a.k.a. fruit of the Spirit. The fruit of the Holy Ghost produces humble and hungry hearts that are constantly eager to be taught and learn more about the Lord Jesus. The Holy Ghost never just sat down and gave me a Bible study, but it did direct me to people who would instruct me and drew me to personal study habits. Most of the time I would feel confirmation in my heart if what was being taught was valid. Keep seeking on things until the Spirit and the Word agree.

The Lord afterward prepared Annanias to expound the word of God to Paul. This is many times how the Holy Ghost works. Maybe not with a audible voice, lol. The Holy Ghost places us in environments to receive biblical truths. It is God who gets the credit no matter the servant that He uses.

Amen on both counts.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Well, the lol part makes me think you are not really meaning this... but if you do mean it, why? Just wondering...

oh, i'm dead serious, which is the funny part. Um, it just strikes me strange that these two, who were basically giving to the church, were killed for it; at the very opening of the Dispensation of Grace.

We are, of course, highly conditioned to distrust communism; but these were exemplars of a model of Christian apolitical communism, and so there are like (at least) 3 things going on in the story--early Church, led by the Spirit, and lying to the Church or Spirit commune for some imagined personal gain in the world. So while the punishment for basically attempting to ride a fence and lie about it seems just to me, in the very beginning of the age of Grace, it seems dissonant. "Where is the Grace?" iow.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

oh, i'm dead serious, which is the funny part. Um, it just strikes me strange that these two, who were basically giving to the church, were killed for it; at the very opening of the Dispensation of Grace.

We are, of course, highly conditioned to distrust communism; but these were exemplars of a model of Christian apolitical communism, and so there are like (at least) 3 things going on in the story--early Church, led by the Spirit, and lying to the Church or Spirit commune for some imagined personal gain in the world. So while the punishment for basically attempting to ride a fence and lie about it seems just to me, in the very beginning of the age of Grace, it seems dissonant. "Where is the Grace?" iow.

Are you actually questioning God as if it was wrong? (Shudder)

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Are you actually questioning God as if it was wrong? (Shudder)

no, i'm pretty sure that i clearly stated that the sentence seemed just to me.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

no, i'm pretty sure that i clearly stated that the sentence seemed just to me.

But why do you ask where grace was? Not getting your intention.