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[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Any reason you can think of that they would be so much cheaper?

Maybe smaller number of faculty members when you just do a Thesis?

Only takes 2 years?

Those might be factors.

Maybe you are onto something - maybe not.

Can you think of other possibilities? Are South African Professors earning about the same as their American counterparts? What's the price of south African office space now days?

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

You needed an F350 to do the job in theology that he wants to be considered great at, and he went and bought a used Chevy Luv.

Or a Nova.

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Yes. I don't recall whether it was a/the primary reason for his decision, but the rather large disparity in tuition fees (UNISA vs American Universities) was a consideration. He thanked God for the technology that was making the competition possible. He was also not shy about discussing some of the requirements.

Of course I am a nobody, but there were several in attendance that were in enrolled in doctoral programs themselves...

Thanks, Hoove.

The cost of tuition deal is hard for me. I've scraped and paid for the minimum education I've gotten over the past decade, and even incurred a small amount of debt in the process. Someone like DKB, pastoring a good-size church, property/home-owner, author, etc... One wouldn't think money/price would be first on this priority list for finding a graduate program.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by DAII

DUH

Clearly the quality of the education or the requirements is not on par with some American institutions and if anyone wants to fault DKB for that, fine. But the point I am making is

we don't know DKB did not take courses
the degree does require in most cases a course of study
and it's a 2 year for each masters or doctors.

Clearly not on par with the same sort of criticisms LS was deserving of

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

As I said, I understand that. My point has been and still is that this is not akin to a degree mill.

Prax I think you misunderstood my thread because I said get your diploma today. Today wasn't intended to imply you could get it today but rather sign up and get started today.

I Posted the requirements and before people knew who I was talking about they assumed diploma mill.

Why?

Because it lacks the rigorous standards of a legit PhD from an American University. It was painfully obvious to everyone when no name was attached.

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Clearly the quality of the education or the requirements is not on par with some American institutions and if anyone wants to fault DKB for that, fine. But the point I am making is

we don't know DKB did not take courses
the degree does require in most cases a course of study
and it's a 2 year for each masters or doctors.

Clearly not on par with the same sort of criticisms LS was deserving of

Respectfully, Prax, I don't think he's getting near the same criticism that LS got.

I do think that this can be chalked up in a related vain of scrutiny: why so many Apostolics with degrees shrouded in controversy? Why do I have to Google your school? Is it a fair question? Do you see a trend at all?

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

You needed an F350 to do the job in theology that he wants to be considered great at, and he went and bought a used Chevy Luv.

You say that, and yet, I have not heard him tout his own greatness and education.

I think he feels privileged and honored to be apart of the development of the first accredited OP institution offering post graduate studies.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Maybe you are onto something - maybe not.

Can you think of other possibilities? Are South African Professors earning about the same as their American counterparts? What's the price of south African office space now days?

Let me put it to you this way the whole program didn't cost as much as a single PhD course at a reputable US university.

That should make you pause.

If someone charges the cost of an estimate to clean your chimney you would probably stop and think, maybe I should check around some.

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

You say that, and yet, I have not heard him tout his own greatness and education.

I think he feels privileged and honored to be apart of the development of the first accredited OP institution offering post graduate studies.

I think so too. He's not as stuck on his creds as some of the other charlatans out there.

But let's not kid. He cares. The ambition to get a PhD in theology: to learn as much as he could from the best educators, or to get street cred, status, etc? What do you think? It's okay to be honest.... while I feel I've adjusted my priorities in this area from status more to academics, kid you not that the degree is also about credibility and status.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Prax I think you misunderstood my thread because I said get your diploma today. Today wasn't intended to imply you could get it today but rather sign up and get started today.

I Posted the requirements and before people knew who I was talking about they assumed diploma mill.

Why?

Because it lacks the rigorous standards of a legit PhD from an American University. It was painfully obvious to everyone when no name was attached.

Baron, could it also be that the reason why some thought "diploma mill" is because this thread is fresh on the hills of the other one where we tared and feathered a couple of men for their so called degrees?

It's clear the quality of this U. is not on par, but I wanted to caution against the notion that DKB didn't take any classes. He didn't need to take classes from this U. but he most likely did need to submit to a study program and may have taken classes anywhere else.

Im just trying to show, for anyone that is interested, that this is not the same as the other issue *(LS) and that we don't know that DKB did not take any classes. Clearly he is educated, even in theology. The quality of his education I would not bet any amount is on par or better than what DS gained