If Conservative Oneness Pentecostals Governed America...

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

True story.

A cousin of mine has landed in a situation that is remarkable.

He moved to the Pacific Northwest last year to help in a church pastored by an old family friend he hadn't been around in years. He left the comfortable surroundings of his Ozark town and the whole family moved west.

It took a while for him to figure out he was in a very bleak situation.

His pastor controls every saints checkbook in the church. He refuses to let folks leave for vacations. He has told my cousin's wife that if she ever disobeys him the wrath of God will fall on her.

His wife has a weekly meeting with the ladies where she schedules their lives. Even to the detail of marriage details (if you know what I mean). My cousin is ready to move back to the Ozarks. This man has told him that if he does he will live in a continual state of disobedience, and will be cursed forever.

He said he would mark them as a family and wherever they go, he will call their pastor.

Don't feed me the line that radicalism is dead, and that cultism isn't a valid charge in some Apostolic circumstances. This man is a UPC pastor.

His license should be pulled. They should write "Michelob" over the door of that place!!!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

His license should be pulled. They should write "Michelob" over the door of that place!!!

Licensed pulled for this ... hah!!!! Now if he didn't pay his quarterly dues ... then OFCOURSE.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Licensed pulled for this ... hah!!!! Now if he didn't pay his quarterly dues ... then OFCOURSE.

Right. First they'd tell him that he is limiting his ministry...

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

True story.

A cousin of mine has landed in a situation that is remarkable.

He moved to the Pacific Northwest last year to help in a church pastored by an old family friend he hadn't been around in years. He left the comfortable surroundings of his Ozark town and the whole family moved west.

It took a while for him to figure out he was in a very bleak situation.

His pastor controls every saints checkbook in the church. He refuses to let folks leave for vacations. He has told my cousin's wife that if she ever disobeys him the wrath of God will fall on her.

His wife has a weekly meeting with the ladies where she schedules their lives. Even to the detail of marriage details (if you know what I mean). My cousin is ready to move back to the Ozarks. This man has told him that if he does he will live in a continual state of disobedience, and will be cursed forever.

He said he would mark them as a family and wherever they go, he will call their pastor.

Don't feed me the line that radicalism is dead, and that cultism isn't a valid charge in some Apostolic circumstances. This man is a UPC pastor.

there are ways of dealing with this.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Ferd

there are ways of dealing with this.

Option 1:

Run and don't look back ...

Option 2:

Seek help from upper management ... and get the run around ... and be accused of trouble making, rebellion and division.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Ferd

there are ways of dealing with this.

Well don't keep us in suspense! List the ways.


My first thought was that as the spiritual leader of his household this guy should get the heck out of Dodge immediately!

There is no excuse to raise kids in that cultic atmosphere.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by CC1

Well don't keep us in suspense! List the ways.


My first thought was that as the spiritual leader of his household this guy should get the heck out of Dodge immediately!

There is no excuse to raise kids in that cultic atmosphere.

Thats what I told him last night. Twilight zone material.

[Ferd]

I distroy the guy. I get detailed data from the meeting with the pastors wife detailing stuff like "taking care of the husbands". I tape the pastor over a period of time being controlling.

I show the pastor the stuff then head to the district. If he doesnt resign I send copies first to his friends then to the local paper and everyone else in the district.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Thats what I told him last night. Twilight zone material.

In all seriousness I will be praying for this man. I am praying that he does not let this man instill fear in his heart with the threat to "mark him".

People caught up in these oppressive situations of control experience great guilt when they try to extricate themselves from it. The longer they stay the harder it is to get out. Typical cult conditioning.

Surely he must know that there are plenty of reasonable UPC pastors who would not accept this pastor's attempt to blackball them.

[Sherri]

This is just about the most bizarre report I've heard from a UPC church! Talk about a CONTROL FREAK???? Unbelievable!