Dt, some folks paid far less in taxes than both of us. The difference between you and me is that I think they should pay their fair share. You and I are. That’s the issue. Also you have massive record profits coming from the gluttonous oil industries. They could afford to share more of the tax burden with the American people. In fact the founders would have taxed companies before individuals like us. Carry on.
really not a smart comment chirs. what a crock1
where were you when oil companies were taking a bath 10 years ago, folding and merging to stay afloat?
were you calling for the governemnt to save the oil industry?
this is kooking thinking!
120 million AMERICANS are invested in Oil companies! I AM! well over 2 million middle to upper middle americans RIGHT NOW work for Oil companies!
the money they are making is abotu 9% of gross reciepts, not exactly sticking it to us. they arent the problem. the government is!
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What if we simply told OPEC that we wouldn’t may any more than we are paying this instant until we see an increase in OPEC production? What do you believe would happen?
OPEC would simply tell us OK and they would sell oil to China, and we would not have oil.
revisit the law of supply and demand. the demander, doesnt set the price. they cause the price.
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I don’t think rushing down that road is wise. I’d open some offshore areas for drilling and see how environmentally friendly the process is first. Make them prove themselves to be clean and green. But again, that would take years before it would help our situation. Ultimately we need a completely new energy technology.
Rushing? (lets go back to "Green is the new stupid")
my brother, we have been trying to crack this nut for 30 years. Environmentalists have been lying about it. there is no rush. 30 years is a pretty slow rush.
Environmentalists say doing this will hurt the carabou they said the same thing about Prudho Bay. guess what? PB has caused an increase in the size of the Carabou herds.
they say it will distroy the pristine ANWR.... which is 19 million acres.... we want to drill on 1,200 acres.
not exactly ruinous.
sorry bro, we arent rushing anywhere except into higher energy prices just like Al Gore called for in his book, Earth in the Balance. Dems are standing in the way because the LIKE high energy prices.
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Local Democrats and Republicans in Ohio are supportive of using nuclear energy. I think that nuclear power needs to be invested in far more. As for new refineries. I’d keep pretty strong regulations forcing oil companies to build with new generation technologies that are clean and green. They have the profits to do so, it wouldn’t hurt them a bit. I heard that there has only been one effort by the private industry to build a new refinery in the past couple decades. It’s not like they’re beating down the door wanting to build refineries. When they did seek to build, if I remember correctly, they wanted to use technologies that are now outdated and they play politics with the expense of using newer technologies because if they can build a refinery they want to build it in the cheapest fashion they can…regardless of environmental impact. All new refineries should use newer technologies and be given extensive environmental oversight. With much power and profit comes much responsibility. If they whine…send them back to the drawing board. Of course, I work with Industrial Pretreatment in our wastewater plant. Pretreatment addresses violations and we see the dirty corporate politics daily. Based on what I’ve seen…I don’t trust them one bit.
Chirs your local Ohio Dems need to move to washington and kick the current crop out. the current crop of dems in washington are idiots of the highest order. you even think the work nuclear and they go nuclear.
As for the building of new refineries, well here is the thing. the current restrictions are too restrictive for even the current technology.
the costs are prohibitive even with the current profits. really. that is the simple case.
you are right, oil companies have not even tried to build new refineries because they know it is hopeless.
blame dems for standing in the way and keeping prices high.
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Chris, the banking problem which has lead this turn down is a result of REGULATION not DERegulation.
this whole thing is about bad loans that were written by lenders to comply with the 1995 Community Reinvestment Act.
Actually, I worked as computer system support for National City Mortgage, Miamisburg Ohio. The banking industry lobbied to have regulatory measures removed to allow them to issue “bad loans” using the variable rate model. While lobbying for removing regulatory measures the government specified that such loans would have to be part of the 1995 Community Reinvestment Act. The idea was that deregulation this aspect of lending, if done under the Community Reinvestment Act, would increase the overall value of property and wealth of the local community.
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also after Bush's tax cuts, the wealty are paying a greater percentage of the tax burden than before his tax cuts. the poorest Americans not only are now OFF the tax roles but some actually get money back even though they didnt pay a dime into the system!
I agree that if you don’t pay taxes you shouldn’t get anything in return. Although…I’d like to see you explain exactly how this is done. I’ve never seen it personally, and I grew up on welfare. Most likely they’re lying on their tax returns. As for the rich paying taxes….frankly, I could loose my home and be under a bridge if we can’t get this worked out. I don’t care if they have to wait until next year to buy their new yacht. I hope they get their yacht…but they’ve become BIG crybabies. Wa. They need to shut up, be thankful they’re not about to loose everything they ever worked for, and pay their freakin’ taxes. And others need to stop using religion to condemn those about to get washed out while protecting the ultra rich. I goes back to money. Too many religious leaders or fornicating with the wealthy in the hopes they’ll get paid for their religious harlotry.
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true dat, and right on on the tax cuts, something the "poor" in mind dont understand, good grief charlie, dt
I think the “rich mind” doesn’t understand how to be thankful and pay their taxes…especially in time of war. Paying one’s taxes is a patriotic duty. I paid my taxes and I could loose it all. They don’t know how good they really got it. If they don’t like contributing to America, especially in time of war, let them move to Bahrain, Halliburton did.
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Only if they cut spending. The war and all the initiatives of President Bush must be funded. Until they cut spending we need to roll back the tax cuts. We are at war. We need to contribute to the cost. I refuse to saddle my son and my grandchildren with the cost of this buffoonery. We as a nation have to come together and help pay for this war. I think it’s very selfish and greedy to argue for tax cuts while at war…especially when we see the expense of this war. Remember…remember, “Conservative”? Conservative…not Corporative.
I think they both will. They already have.
Once again you fall for this silly line. Spending needs to be cut drastically. I agree with that. Drastically draconian....
But spending and tax cuts are not connected.
You see tax cuts as taking money from the government. Time and again, reality has proven that wrong! EVERY time taxes have been cut, we have seen a sharp increase in tax receipts. Why? Cutting taxes benefits the economy, when that happens; there is more income to tax.
So this game of tax cuts connected to spending cuts is simply a lie.
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Actually, I worked as computer system support for National City Mortgage, Miamisburg Ohio. The banking industry lobbied to have regulatory measures removed to allow them to issue “bad loans” using the variable rate model. While lobbying for removing regulatory measures the government specified that such loans would have to be part of the 1995 Community Reinvestment Act. The idea was that deregulation this aspect of lending, if done under the Community Reinvestment Act, would increase the overall value of property and wealth of the local community.
Chris, the lobbied for this BECAUSE they were being forced to write loans in bad neighborhoods and they knew with the old restrictions, they would not get anyone qualified. then they would be hit with penalties!
they didnt have a choice!
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the money they are making is abotu 9% of gross reciepts, not exactly sticking it to us. they arent the problem. the government is!
That 9% is an awesome amount of money. They can afford the taxes and it wouldn’t cut that deeply into their profit margin at all. I don’t believe in taxing them into oblivion…I just believe they need to carry some of the weight or leave the country.
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