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Old 11-28-2007, 02:31 PM
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This is the redlight district of the AFF .... rumors and innuendo are preferred entreprenuers.
I know, I know there I go takin' all the fun out of it.

Majoring on minors like facts and evedence.

My most humble apologies as an impudent newbie.



P.S. some answers would still be soothing to enquiring minds
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:35 PM
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I know, I know there I go takin' all the fun out of it.

Majoring on minors like facts and evedence.

My most humble apologies as an impudent newbie.



P.S. some answers would still be soothing to enquiring minds
Esteemed Mr/Mrs/Miss/ Ms. Newbie:

You're deflecting ...

Sincerely,
Dan
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:39 PM
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I think it's more an evasion than a deflection...but I may be overly analyzing the Newbie...
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:41 PM
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A call from one of the organizers of the Tulsa meeting?
The call was asking them to leave the UPCI ? or to attend the meeting?
The caller is remaining in the organization?

There have been many calls discussing many options/scenarios just making sure exactly what the content was.
The call was from a Pastor associated with the Tulsa meeting who IS leaving the UPC. He called encouraging for the person I know to pull out of the UPC.
He went on to talk about positions that might be available in the new ORG.

The person that received the call is VERY close to me...it's a relative. he wouldn't lie.

He got the call encouraging him to come to the meeting in Tulsa AND also to not renew his dues. If he would agree to this BEFORE going to the meeting, he would be invited to attend some "formation meetings"
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:41 PM
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I think it's more an evasion than a deflection...but I may be overly analyzing the Newbie...
Newbie's got the "You do it too" syndrome.
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:42 PM
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The call was from a Pastor associated with the Tulsa meeting who IS leaving the UPC. He called encouraging for the person I know to pull out of the UPC.
He went on to talk about positions that might be available in the new ORG.

The person that received the call is VERY close to me...it's a relative. he wouldn't lie.

He got the call encouraging him to come to the meeting in Tulsa AND also to not renew his dues. If he would agree to this BEFORE going to the meeting, he would be invited to attend some "formation meetings"
Say it ain't so!!!!!!!!!!

But do you have a transcript or voice recording of said conversation???
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:44 PM
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We're dancing around the issue...it doesn't matter what happened in 1992...those actions must stand alone, by themselves...

The actions of these men must also stand alone...two wrongs do not make a right...and you can't offer as an excuse the unethical behavior of others in the past as justification of present unethical behavior...

Ethics are not determined in light of others' actions...honesty and integrity are judged in light of His Word and commandments...
Preach it RevBuddy! Seems like some think the cause justifies the means!
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:45 PM
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It's the "Unless I hear it with my own ear" syndrome...

Ok, the sky isn't falling, but the is a tear in it
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:47 PM
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I think it's more an evasion than a deflection...but I may be overly analyzing the Newbie...
RevBuddy thus far you seem to be hitting on target each time!
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:48 PM
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The call was from a Pastor associated with the Tulsa meeting who IS leaving the UPC. He called encouraging for the person I know to pull out of the UPC.
He went on to talk about positions that might be available in the new ORG.

The person that received the call is VERY close to me...it's a relative. he wouldn't lie.

He got the call encouraging him to come to the meeting in Tulsa AND also to not renew his dues. If he would agree to this BEFORE going to the meeting, he would be invited to attend some "formation meetings"
So this call was not from one of the 6 (now reportedly 7) sponsors?
And this caller was leaving, not remaining while encouraging the other to leave?
May or may not have the blessing of those who are the organizers.?
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