Apostolic Friends Forum
Tab Menu 1
Go Back   Apostolic Friends Forum > The Fellowship Hall > The Newsroom > Political Talk
Facebook

Notices

Political Talk Political News


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #101  
Old 06-19-2014, 03:06 PM
Fionn mac Cumh's Avatar
Fionn mac Cumh Fionn mac Cumh is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,378
Re: Pastors forced to perform same-sex marriages

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke View Post
Thank you but as has been mentioned there is no way to prove that Jefferson had interracial relations. Weather he did or not has no bearing on the topic being discussed. There is no comparison between interracial marriage and homosexual unions. Unless you are saying that interacial marriage is the equivilant of homosexual unions.
No I a not saying that. I am saying that the govt has no right to regulate what two adults do in their love lives. Key word being adults. Thats all. If they can regulate that, what else can they regulate? Can they make us all practice a certain religion?
Reply With Quote
  #102  
Old 06-19-2014, 03:08 PM
Luke's Avatar
Luke Luke is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,829
Re: Pastors forced to perform same-sex marriages

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh View Post
No I a not saying that. I am saying that the govt has no right to regulate what two adults do in their love lives. Key word being adults. Thats all. If they can regulate that, what else can they regulate? Can they make us all practice a certain religion?
Who said anything about regulateing I just dont want the definition of marriage to be redefined.
Reply With Quote
  #103  
Old 06-19-2014, 03:16 PM
Fionn mac Cumh's Avatar
Fionn mac Cumh Fionn mac Cumh is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,378
Re: Pastors forced to perform same-sex marriages

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke View Post
Who said anything about regulateing I just dont want the definition of marriage to be redefined.
Its regulating. You said you want a law against homosexuality. I didnt assume you wanted just marriage outlawed. Its also discrimination if we say straight people can wed and gays cant.. Marriage is a religious thing anyways. Would the word civil union make you upset? Civil unions and attached benefits for all couples. Is that ok?
Reply With Quote
  #104  
Old 06-19-2014, 03:27 PM
Luke's Avatar
Luke Luke is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,829
Re: Pastors forced to perform same-sex marriages

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh View Post
Its regulating. You said you want a law against homosexuality. I didnt assume you wanted just marriage outlawed. Its also discrimination if we say straight people can wed and gays cant.. Marriage is a religious thing anyways. Would the word civil union make you upset? Civil unions and attached benefits for all couples. Is that ok?
What to people do inside the privacy of their home is their business. I do like Russia's law of keeping it private. I think that anyone should be able to get married and that there should no exceptions given to anyone. It should be the same standard for all. One person of the opposite sex. This shows no favoritism to anyone and everyone has the same opportunity to get married.
Reply With Quote
  #105  
Old 06-19-2014, 03:29 PM
Fionn mac Cumh's Avatar
Fionn mac Cumh Fionn mac Cumh is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,378
Re: Pastors forced to perform same-sex marriages

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke View Post
What to people do inside the privacy of their home is their business. I do like Russia's law of keeping it private. I think that anyone should be able to get married and that there should no exceptions given to anyone. It should be the same standard for all. One person of the opposite sex. This shows no favoritism to anyone and everyone has the same opportunity to get married.
Thats a contradiction isnt it?
Reply With Quote
  #106  
Old 06-19-2014, 03:51 PM
TGBTG TGBTG is offline
Jesus is the only Lord God


 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,565
Re: Pastors forced to perform same-sex marriages

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke View Post
You do understand that there were laws in america against homosexual behavior not all that long ago? These are the laws to which i refrered.
So you want this type of laws re-instated?

http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_laws

Sodomy was a criminal offense at common law and was forbidden by the laws of the original 13 States when they ratified the Bill of Rights. In 1868, when the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified, all but 5 of the 37 States in the Union had criminal sodomy laws. Until 1961, all 50 States outlawed sodomy, with about half in 2003 continuing to provide criminal penalties for sodomy performed in private and between consenting adults.[16]

Miller[17] reports that the penalty for homosexuality in several states was death — including New York, Vermont, Connecticut, and South Carolina.[18] Thomas Jefferson advocated “dismemberment” (castration) as the penalty for homosexuality in his home state of Virginia, and even authored a bill to that effect, reducing the penalty from death.[19][20]
__________________
...Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ...(Acts 20:21)
Reply With Quote
  #107  
Old 06-19-2014, 04:11 PM
jfrog's Avatar
jfrog jfrog is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 9,001
Re: Pastors forced to perform same-sex marriages

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh View Post
Its regulating. You said you want a law against homosexuality. I didnt assume you wanted just marriage outlawed. Its also discrimination if we say straight people can wed and gays cant.. Marriage is a religious thing anyways. Would the word civil union make you upset? Civil unions and attached benefits for all couples. Is that ok?
It's also discrimination if we say kids cant wed but adults can... I think its good to discriminate on certain grounds.
__________________
You better watch out before I blitzkrieg your thread cause I'm the Thread Nazi now!
Reply With Quote
  #108  
Old 06-19-2014, 04:13 PM
Fionn mac Cumh's Avatar
Fionn mac Cumh Fionn mac Cumh is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,378
Re: Pastors forced to perform same-sex marriages

Quote:
Originally Posted by jfrog View Post
It's also discrimination if we say kids cant wed but adults can... I think its good to discriminate on certain grounds.
Stop with this. I am saying two ADULTS
Reply With Quote
  #109  
Old 06-19-2014, 04:24 PM
jfrog's Avatar
jfrog jfrog is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 9,001
Re: Pastors forced to perform same-sex marriages

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh View Post
Stop with this. I am saying two ADULTS
Yet the principle stands. There are valid grounds to discriminate on. Perhaps gender is a valid grounds as well.
__________________
You better watch out before I blitzkrieg your thread cause I'm the Thread Nazi now!
Reply With Quote
  #110  
Old 06-19-2014, 04:39 PM
Fionn mac Cumh's Avatar
Fionn mac Cumh Fionn mac Cumh is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,378
Re: Pastors forced to perform same-sex marriages

Quote:
Originally Posted by jfrog View Post
Yet the principle stands. There are valid grounds to discriminate on. Perhaps gender is a valid grounds as well.
Well I dont see why there is any non religious grounds to. Huge difference between a pedophile and a homo.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
You WILL perform gay weddings!! (L) Originalist Political Talk 31 05-30-2013 09:56 AM
Did the original church perform socialism? onefaith2 Deep Waters 21 11-16-2010 12:14 PM
Prejudice Perspectives Perform Poorly Rhymis Fellowship Hall 8 10-08-2007 04:49 PM
Mute Monks Perform Hallelujah Chorus CC1 Fellowship Hall 3 06-25-2007 11:18 PM
Pastors do you perform marriages for widows? COOPER Fellowship Hall 8 03-29-2007 04:45 PM

 
User Infomation
Your Avatar

Latest Threads
- by jfrog
- by Salome
- by Amanah

Help Support AFF!

Advertisement




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.