God Is Not A Man!

[Gnostic Bishop]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I think you are looking for too much in a simple statement. God is not a man.

God has always been a man.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Gnostic Bishop

God has always been a man.

Who but a man can express the will of God?

There has only been a man as no God has ever spoken a word here.

Regards
DL

Yawn.

Romans 1:22-23 KJV Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, (23) And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I think you are looking for too much in a simple statement. God is not a man.

I look for what people say. I read their grammar

That is why I asked Aquila if the Someone who died is the same Someone who created all things.

Rather than "it", I say "he" etc etc..

The reason is once you use words like Person and Nature a cloud of darkness covers their eyes and they start drooling like Homer Simpson over a donut...they just tune out
So let's be explicit and clear

Did God become human and die? YES!

Was there a difference between HIS Divinity and Humanity? YES!

That is why people don't get "God died". They see two. God/Spirit and Son/flesh and it was the Son who died not God who died

In logical grammatical terms, that presents two persons. a Unitarian view

[Gnostic Bishop]

The perfect description of the Trinity.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Gnostic Bishop

The perfect description of the Trinity.

Regards
DL

we are not trinitarians mr gnostic.

[Gnostic Bishop]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

we are not trinitarians mr gnostic.

You are still reading myths as real. That is death to clear thinking.

Regards
DL

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I look for what people say. I read their grammar

That is why I asked Aquila if the Someone who died is the same Someone who created all things.

Rather than "it", I say "he" etc etc..

The reason is once you use words like Person and Nature a cloud of darkness covers their eyes and they start drooling like Homer Simpson over a donut...they just tune out
So let's be explicit and clear

Did God become human and die? YES!

Was there a difference between HIS Divinity and Humanity? YES!

That is why people don't get "God died". They see two. God/Spirit and Son/flesh and it was the Son who died not God who died

In logical grammatical terms, that presents two persons. a Unitarian view

Not necessarily. God cannot die, Praxeas. He is eternal. It is an oxymoron to say God died. The element that dies is something that is mortal. God is not mortal. That does not imply two persons. If God died, the universe would cease to exist. Trinitarians who claim God the Son died are the ones who propose God died.

God is eternal and at one point in time He took upon Himself mortality and human nature that could and did die. It's that which God took upon Himself that died, but not God, Himself. He continued to live through the death as per His deity. Not another person, but another mode of His person.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Not necessarily. God cannot die, Praxeas. He is eternal. It is an oxymoron to say God died. The element that dies is something that is mortal. God is not mortal. That does not imply two persons. If God died, the universe would cease to exist. Trinitarians who claim God the Son died are the ones who propose God died.

God is eternal and at one point in time He took upon Himself mortality and human nature that could and did die. It's that which God took upon Himself that died, but not God, Himself. He continued to live through the death as per His deity. Not another person, but another mode of His person.

Good stuff Mike

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Absolutely! Course you are meaning the Spirit that resided in the flesh right? The flesh of Jesus was not God.

The flesh refers to the sonship, that was not God.

The Spirit that resided in that flesh was and is God. That Spirit is also named Jesus.

When we recieve the Holy Ghost we are receiving the Spirit of Jesus who is God.

Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

When we receive the Holy Ghost we receive God.

Amen, Beloved: "God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself." Again, "For in him dwells all the fullness of the godhead bodily."

Sometimes, pentecostals (apostolics) sound so much like trinitarians! The body did not "manifest" God: it was his holiness (sinless life) and righteous works that manifested/revealed God!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Not necessarily. God cannot die, Praxeas. He is eternal. It is an oxymoron to say God died. The element that dies is something that is mortal. God is not mortal. That does not imply two persons. If God died, the universe would cease to exist. Trinitarians who claim God the Son died are the ones who propose God died.

God is eternal and at one point in time He took upon Himself mortality and human nature that could and did die. It's that which God took upon Himself that died, but not God, Himself. He continued to live through the death as per His deity. Not another person, but another mode of His person.

Persons die, not just their bodies. When our fathers die we don't say "Oh...my father's body died". We say "My father died", because HE died. HE is the one who died

If God is the One who became Man then God is He who died AS a man

It is not an oxymoron if you believe the incarnation