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Old 09-05-2009, 09:08 PM
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How do oneness believers reconcile numbers 23:19 with oneness doctrine? "God is not a man that he should lie; niether the son of man that he should repent;
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:31 PM
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How do oneness believers reconcile numbers 23:19 with oneness doctrine? "God is not a man that he should lie; niether the son of man that he should repent;
Please explain how you think a Oneness view is different than a Trinitarian view here.
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Please explain how you think a Oneness view is different than a Trinitarian view here.
I don't understand your question. I believe God was manifest in the flesh and I don't believe in 3 persons. I am just trying to reconcile numbers 23:19 with the oneness view.
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I don't understand your question. I believe God was manifest in the flesh and I don't believe in 3 persons. I am just trying to reconcile numbers 23:19 with the oneness view.
Just saying it needs no reconciling with Oneness view in particular. God is not a man. Nor is he the son of man - this obviously means apart from the miraculous incarnation.
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Just saying it needs no reconciling with Oneness view in particular. God is not a man. Nor is he the Son of man - this obviously means apart from the miraculous incarnation.
so you don't believe that Jesus is God?
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so you don't believe that Jesus is God?
Sure I do as do Trinitarians. That is why I said "this obviously means apart from the miraculous incarnation." The verse does not have the Only Begotten Son in view.
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How do oneness believers reconcile numbers 23:19 with oneness doctrine? "God is not a man that he should lie; niether the son of man that he should repent;
Jesus said he was a man. John 8:40

Jesus is the Truth, therefore Jesus did not lie. John 14:6

Jesus said he was the Son of man. Matt 16:13

Jesus is God. Isaiah 9:6

Since all of these statements are true, we can conclude that at the time in which God spoke Numbers 23:19, He had not yet become a man.
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Jesus said he was a man. John 8:40

Jesus is the Truth, therefore Jesus did not lie. John 14:6

Jesus said he was the Son of man. Matt 16:13

Jesus is God. Isaiah 9:6

Since all of these statements are true, we can conclude that at the time in which God spoke Numbers 23:19, He had not yet become a man.
Isn't the word of God forever settled in heaven? "the word of God cannot be broken" how can scriptures contradict?
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