Universal Health Insurance & Abortion:

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

It looks like you have a problem.

You are a government clerk and you claim to be an expert on health care?

80% of the H.s. Dropouts voted for obama.

Historic!!!!

Coadie, I'm not an expert by any means, and frankly... neither are you. LOL Now, I do have government subsidized health insurance through UHC so I can say I have some experience with the concept. Also I've seen the various local structuring of the Obama plan should it become law. It's interesting. However, if it becomes law (and I doubt it), it will not be anything like what Obama first put on the table. Various officials will twist and change it into a nightmare. It's not so much Obama's plan that I'm worried about... it's the monster it will become if gets through Congress.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

Here is the entire Obama campaign "myth busting" statement:


Fact Check: Obama Consistent in His Position on Single Payer Health Care


January 21, 2008


Rhetoric: "Today, he opposes single payer health care, and attacks Sen. Clinton for proposing a plan that covers everyone"

Reality: Obama Has Consistently Said That If We Were Starting From Scratch, He Would Support A Single Payer System, But Now We Need To Build On The System We Have If Obama Were Starting From Scratch, He Would Support A Single Payer System. The New Yorker wrote, "'If you're starting from scratch,' he [Obama] says, 'then a single-payer system'-a government-managed system like Canada's, which disconnects health insurance from employment-'would probably make sense. But we've got all these legacy systems in place, and managing the transition, as well as adjusting the culture to a different system, would be difficult to pull off. So we may need a system that's not so disruptive that people feel like suddenly what they've known for most of their lives is thrown by the wayside.'" [New Yorker, 5/7/07]


If Obama Were Starting From Scratch, He Would Support A Single Payer System. "At a roundtable with a handful of invited guests at Lindy's Diner in Keene, Obama said if he were starting from scratch, he would probably propose a single payer health care system, but because of existing infrastructure, he created a proposal to improve the current system." [Concord Monitor, 8/14/07]


If Obama Were Starting From Scratch, He Would Support A Single Payer System. Obama said, "Here's the bottom line. If I were designing a system from scratch I would probably set up a single-payer system...But we're not designing a system from scratch...And when we had a healthcare forum before I set up my healthcare plan here in Iowa there was a lot of resistance to a single-payer system. So what I believe is we should set up a series of choices....Over time it may be that we end up transitioning to such a system. For now, I just want to make sure every American is covered...I don't want to wait for that perfect system...The one thing you should ask about the candidates though is who's gonna have the capacity to actually deliver on the change?...I believe I've got a better capacity to break t he gridlock and attract both Independents and Republicans to work together." [http://iowa.barackobama.com/page/community/tag/Ames]


The Obama campaign is giving a very accurate description of a gradualist approach to slip socialized medicine past the "ignorant" American people. Like twisp.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...s_transit.html

Bro, if we were starting from scratch I'd support single payer too. But here's the good news for you.... we're not starting from scratch. So the point is mute. Obama has to work with the private industry or kiss any reform goodbye.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY

Let me get this straight.

Obama's health care plan will be
written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it,
passed by a Congress that hasn't read it,
signed by a president who smokes,
funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes,
overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and
financed by a country that is nearly broke.


What possibly could go wrong?

LOL

I love it!

[coadie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmp..._embedded#t=15