Have You Been to WWPF Lately? - Page 11

jaxfam6 · #**101** 06-22-2008, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Hi jax.. May I ask what state or Church you grew up in. Where is your home church now??

I grew up in Ohio. My father (Marvin Jacks) and then my brother (Tom) were my pastors back then.
I am currently in Phoenix AZ and I go to Phoenix First Apostolic Church. Pastor is Frank Romo. One of the best preachers, pastor, friend I could ask for. Very wise man

jaxfam6 · #**102** 06-22-2008, 01:41 AM

I must say I did go to the site for the WPF and saw the pictures they have posted. There are not many smiling faces. Not many look happy. There are some but mostly they seem serious or even angry. Then there are many with their arms folded as if to say leave me alone. I am sure there are really good people there but if I were to judge from looks, as most from the internet will do, I would not want to be part of them because they look bapized in pickle juice.
I am not trying to be mean I am just stating an opinion based from my observations.

Tim Rutledge · #**103** 06-22-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxfam6

I must say I did go to the site for the WPF and saw the pictures they have posted. There are not many smiling faces. Not many look happy. There are some but mostly they seem serious or even angry. Then there are many with their arms folded as if to say leave me alone. I am sure there are really good people there but if I were to judge from looks, as most from the internet will do, I would not want to be part of them because they look bapized in pickle juice.
I am not trying to be mean I am just stating an opinion based from my observations.

Hi Brother, thanks for sharing where your from. I attend in Buchanan MI. Bishop, and Pastor Deed's. Quite a few good Churches in OH.
I was at the meeting in Branson MO. Actually my wife, baby and I was in a few of the pictures. I believe we are in the very first one shown, on the left,with my arms raised and she has Caden Timothy in her arms. Anyways.. I think to a degree there was a spirit of heaviness there. These people have put their whole life into an organization, that to them, has let them down. It was a very balanced meeting with good worship. Lord willing I'll be going back next year. I believe the Executive Council is just trying to hold onto what has always been taught and enforced by the bible and or manual of the upci. God bless.
TR

jaxfam6 · #**104** 06-22-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

Hi Brother, thanks for sharing where your from. I attend in Buchanan MI. Bishop, and Pastor Deed's. Quite a few good Churches in OH.
I was at the meeting in Branson MO. Actually my wife, baby and I was in a few of the pictures. I believe we are in the very first one shown, on the left,with my arms raised and she has Caden Timothy in her arms. Anyways.. I think to a degree there was a spirit of heaviness there. These people have put their whole life into an organization, that to them, has let them down. It was a very balanced meeting with good worship. Lord willing I'll be going back next year. I believe the Executive Council is just trying to hold onto what has always been taught and enforced by the bible and or manual of the upci. God bless.
TR

For a short time my father pastored in Taylor MI outside of Detroit. only about two years back in the mid 70's. During our time there the church went from 12 people to 175. When he left he put it in the hands of an inept 'preacher' who ruined the people within 3 years. Everything that had been built was gone. It is a shame when men fall into sin. Though people should not follow a man they still do look at the man in charge and when he makes mistakes it effects people.
Oh well, times past now.

TCSQ · #**105** 06-22-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxfam6

I grew up in Ohio. My father (Marvin Jacks) and then my brother (Tom) were my pastors back then.
I am currently in Phoenix AZ and I go to Phoenix First Apostolic Church. Pastor is Frank Romo. One of the best preachers, pastor, friend I could ask for. Very wise man

You mean to say you moved all the way out to ARIZONA and aren't going to Gail Rocks church (Other wise known as "Just Shoot Me.....NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tabernacle!???)

Glad to hear you found a nice church there in the Valley of the Sun.

jaxfam6 · #**106** 06-22-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TCSQ

You mean to say you moved all the way out to ARIZONA and aren't going to Gail Rocks church (Other wise known as "Just Shoot Me.....NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tabernacle!???)

Glad to hear you found a nice church there in the Valley of the Sun.

OKAY
THANK YOU FOR THAT TRAUMATIC MEMORY

NO NO and NO
we are not going to that church

Yes we are very grateful that God ACCIDENTALLY put us in the right place at the right time to literally find the church we are going to. God is awesome that way.

Tim Rutledge · #**107** 06-22-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxfam6

OKAY
THANK YOU FOR THAT TRAUMATIC MEMORY

NO NO and NO
we are not going to that church

Yes we are very grateful that God ACCIDENTALLY put us in the right place at the right time to literally find the church we are going to. God is awesome that way.

Maybe you guys know Br. Rock better then I do. But what I've heard and seen personly, is good. I have some tapes of him. Just less tolerence for "sin" then others. Different brand preachers are for different brand folks.
Don't get me wrong though.. I do no where your coming from. I just particularly like that type of preaching. No Guesswork. God bless.
TR

Jekyll · #**108** 06-22-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

I hope WPF brings much glory to the name of Jesus Christ.

It's the superior attitude I found distasteful. It leads to a holier than thou mindset.

The superior attitude is non-existent. A statement of faith and direction was made but the preaching is the same. As someone said before, these men are abiding by what the UPC stood for for years. Because an org takes a left turn, these men are supposed to change what they preach? I don't think so.

Of course there is NOTHING wrong with attributing attitudes and feelings to men clearly by ASSUMPTION. And we all know what that word means and makes of people..

mizpeh · #**109** 06-22-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jekyll

The superior attitude is non-existent. A statement of faith and direction was made but the preaching is the same. As someone said before, these men are abiding by what the UPC stood for for years. Because an org takes a left turn, these men are supposed to change what they preach? I don't think so.

Of course there is NOTHING wrong with attributing attitudes and feelings to men clearly by ASSUMPTION. And we all know what that word means and makes of people..

And "cream of the crop" is an OPINION not a verifiable TRUTH.

Let the men of the WPF continue lifting up the name of the Lord and spreading the gospel of peace. But let them not think they are something when they are not. We are all the children of God by grace and God is able to make the one you think the least, stand.

Jekyll · #**110** 06-22-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

And "cream of the crop" is an OPINION not a verifiable TRUTH.

Let the men of the WPF continue lifting up the name of the Lord and spreading the gospel of peace. But let them not think they are something when they are not. We are all the children of God by grace and God is able to make the one you think the least, stand.

Oh, please, tell me, all knowing one, just what do they think they are? They have not labelled themsleves the cream of the crop. Just because someone throws that comment out there doesn't mean that they consider themselves to be such.