Bro. I stand for plenty...but all my stands are biblical and consistent. Not stubborn and traditional. The Bible I read is very logical to me and there are no inconsistent stands.
My point is that you do yourselves no favor with a stance that is not Biblical and illogical.
Which unbiblical stands are we talking about? How long have you been UPC?
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Which unbiblical stands are we talking about? How long have you been UPC?
If being associated with television at all in any capacity is against the Bible, then the internet would have to be. You would probably have to use whatever scripture you found that you think teaches against having anything to do with TV, to reraise the earlier ultra con teaching against the radio.
I was born and raised in the UPC.
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If being associated with television at all in any capacity is against the Bible, then the internet would have to be. You would probably have to use whatever scripture you found that you think teaches against having anything to do with TV, to reraise the earlier ultra con teaching against the radio.
I was born and raised in the UPC.
So if you were born and raised in the upc.. who taught you that tv may be ok? Cause for yrs. its been against the the "rules" to own one as a minster and we were told to teach the saints against it.
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So if you were born and raised in the upc.. who taught you that tv may be ok? Cause for yrs. its been against the the "rules" to own one as a minster and we were told to teach the saints against it.
Nobody "taught me that TV is ok". I don't have to be taught to question the double standard in the stance. I don't have to be told what to think about everything. I'm thankful that I was not taught to be that way by any of my pastors.
I have been taught to study myself to show myself approved so that I am not ashamed by the stances that I take or an inabilty to fully explain them.
The point that I have been trying to make is that I am very evangelistic by nature. I go to a very evangelistic church and as a result I deal with new members and visitors on a weekly basis. It is not enough to tell those people that something is illogical but "its been against the the "rules" to own one as a minster and we were told to teach the saints against it". I think that a lot of people who do such things are not dealing with hundreds of new people as a result of their church growth and are dealing with the same people and able to rely on the old party line.
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There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chuck Norris lives in Houston.
Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
Nobody "taught me that TV is ok". I don't have to be taught to question the double standard in the stance. I don't have to be told what to think about everything. I'm thankful that I was not taught to be that way by any of my pastors.
I have been taught to study myself to show myself approved so that I am not ashamed by the stances that I take or an inabilty to fully explain them.
The point that I have been trying to make is that I am very evangelistic by nature. I go to a very evangelistic church and as a result I deal with new members and visitors on a weekly basis. It is not enough to tell those people that something is illogical but "its been against the the "rules" to own one as a minster and we were told to teach the saints against it". I think that a lot of people who do such things are not dealing with hundreds of new people as a result of their church growth and are dealing with the same people and able to rely on the old party line.
Brother, I can appreciate it the fact that you deal with a lot of new people and there are much larger issues then tv. Watching anything on tv with new people would be over the line. Your right, in saying when new people are coming in consistently, its whole different mindset then saints always just seeing the same old saints. I understand that new saints "need" logic caused they lack faith and hope. I co worker of mine has been attending services with me the past 5 Sunday nights. He needs the HG, the revelation of who Jesus is. I won't his tv for awhile..thats not my job anyways. Talk to you soon.
God bless.
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LOL!!! Hey, I understand...my sisters and my Dad were singing at an AMF event(or church) years ago, and my Dad couldn't understand why no one was responding to the music. The whole crowd was sitting like statues, no response.
My Dad had just bought my older sister (it was PJ, CC1) a beautiful red dress, which she was wearing on the platform. So, inny waze...my Dad turns around to the pastor and (quietly) asks what the problem is, to which the pastor replied, "We believe only whores wear red."
My Dad was REALLY mad about that...LOL!!!!!
But...I don't think the red dress thing was ever in the UPC...was it? I thought that was a purely AMF/ultra-con thing.
I grew up AMF and Red was not preached against at our church
a lot of other things were but not ours. We did know however that there were some that did preach against it.
I grew up AMF and Red was not preached against at our church
a lot of other things were but not ours. We did know however that there were some that did preach against it.
Hi jax.. May I ask what state or Church you grew up in. Where is your home church now??
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i agree it is growing fast . ask for the old paths and walk their in. ps i was wrong about the conference bro smith is listed as a speaker at, it is the amc not wwpf. yes their is some inconsistency, if your surfing the wrong things on line then dont brag you dont have tv. it is worse, but that doesnt justify tv. and if they had had internet when tv came out, that would have been in the manual too. no question. the problem is you use the internet for work. do you use it properly or not? do you want to live for jesus or not? their isnt enough rules in the world to make you ,with the way technology is changing. ya gotta have the want to to quote bro alan oggs !!
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