Texas Lawsuit Dismissed By SCOTUS

[n david]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

OK, will Trump do 4 more years starting from January 2021?

If a miracle doesn’t happen to give Trump another term next month, he won’t get four more years ever. He won’t win 2024 if Biden becomes POTUS.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

If a miracle doesn’t happen to give Trump another term next month, he won’t get four more years ever. He won’t win 2024 if Biden becomes POTUS.

I honestly cannot see Biden lasting that long (8 years ) I personally don't see him going further than 1 1/2.

But explain how Kamala Harris and her VP Alexander Ocasio Cortez will do the remainder and the next four years? Will it be by design? Or by the will and want of the people?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I honestly cannot see Biden lasting that long (8 years ) I personally don't see him going further than 1 1/2.

But explain how Kamala Harris and her VP Alexander Ocasio Cortez will do the remainder and the next four years? Will it be by design? Or by the will and want of the people?

I don't mean that Biden or another Dem will win in 2024, I just don't believe the GOP will nominate Trump in 2024. Not only that but you have the NY AG and the Manhattan DA gunning to put Trump in prison for fraud. It's maddening what these DAs are doing and how bigoted and biased they are. They don't even hide it at all, they're proud of their actions.

I'm afraid Trump won't last very long outside of the WH.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by n david

If a miracle doesn’t happen to give Trump another term next month, he won’t get four more years ever. He won’t win 2024 if Biden becomes POTUS.

We have seen a video of blatant fraud in Georgia. Forensic evidence of voting machines shows clear tampering in both Arizona and Michigan. Pennsylvania and Wisconsin both clear broke the law, allowing invalid votes to count. The courts are refusing to get involved. Trump is well within his rights to shut all of this own now and hand it over to military justice. Or, a stand off in Congress over EC vote certification needs to happen. Not for Trump, but to preserve the Constitution in general.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Originalist

We have seen a video of blatant fraud in Georgia. Forensic evidence of voting machines shows clear tampering in both Arizona and Michigan. Pennsylvania and Wisconsin both clear broke the law, allowing invalid votes to count. The courts are refusing to get involved. Trump is well within his rights to shut all of this own now and hand it over to military justice. Or, a stand off in Congress over EC vote certification needs to happen. Not for Trump, but to preserve the Constitution in general.

I have been listening to the Senate Committee hearing on voter fraud. Listening to Chris Krebs trying to get his cred back. Lol! He said no machine tied to Internet, today he said some were. He spent most of the time blaming Trump for everything, including violence.

Jesse Binnall, Trump’s attorney did well. I missed some of the hearing.
However, I did catch this testimony by Bobby Eberle, Ph.D, saying, "Enough election fraud to overturn the election. This Hearing is important because if we come to actual hearing and testimony on January 6th, it sets up the case to move to the other slate of electors."

[n david]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Speaking to the point of this thread: Texas’ presidential electors voted 34-4 to "condemn" the Supreme Court rejecting Texas’ election lawsuit against PA, WI, GA & MI and called for the state legislatures of those states to "convene and appoint their electors in accordance with the true constitutional vote of the people..", which they did.

Meanwhile, PA, WI, GA & MI electors cast their votes as expected. There were no faithless electors.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Now, onto Electoral votes...

Congress determines who will be president, not the court system.

This is partially correct and ironic. It's correct that the court system does not determine who is POTUS, though many, including a few here, have been hoping the SCOTUS would do so.

Congress doesn't determine who will be president. Its role is to verify the electoral college votes and announce the winner of the EC. Now, Congress may debate objections to certain votes and, if the objections are sustained and results in no candidate reaching 270, then Congress would vote for POTUS/VP. But their normal role, their main role, is simply to verify and announce the winner of the EC.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Here is how it works:

Congress convenes on January 6th, to receive the states’ electoral votes.

Correct. Congress will jointly meet in the House at 1pm on Jan 6.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

The Senate president (VP Mike Pence) calls for any objections, which must be signed by at least 1 senator and 1 House Representative.

Any objections must be in writing and must be signed by at least 1 Senator and 1 Representative.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Representative Mo Brooks, as of today, has 7 members of the House Caucus joining him. They need one Senator. Rand Paul and Ron Johnson indicating they may join. I feel more fraud will be exposed and support will grow. At least I hope so. Sidney Powell still hasn’t gone before the Supreme Court, her cases pending. She is working on this as a RICO case. I don’t know the timeline on that.

Majority Leader McConnell had a call with GOP Senators this morning and warned against attempting to challenge the results of the EC votes on Jan 6th.

Ron Johnson has stated he has "no plans" to object the results.

Rep. Mo Brooks is trying to get a Senator to join his objection but thus far has not found anyone who will join him. I doubt he'll persuade any Senator to join him.

Side note about Sidney "Release the Kracken" Powell: Not since QAnon has there been a more disappointing failure of claims made vs reality. I admit that when "Q" first began to release its fanciful stories about "The Storm" and this quiet war vs the "Deep State" that Trump was engaged in ... I thought it was incredible and really hoped it was true. It didn't take long to see that it was a load of garbage.

Same with this Sidney "Kracken" Powell. There was a significant difference between QAnon and Powell, in that she had credibility in being a successful attorney, including as an Assistant US Attorney. But her claims have also been unproven.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

After an objection, the Senate and House will separate and each will decide whether to accept or reject a state’s objected electoral votes. If both chambers reject the state’s votes, they will not be counted.

IF there is a written objection by a Senator and Representative, the Senate will withdraw from the House and both will debate and vote whether to accept/reject the votes under objection. This is where a lot of disinformation has been going around. When the House and Senate votes to accept or reject the votes under objection, the FULL House votes. I've read in several places that only one House member votes for each state. That is later in the process. For any objections, the full House will vote.

That alone is Game. Set. Match. Start the band and have the fat lady sing, since the Democrats hold the majority there. McConnell referenced this in the phone call this morning. Said any objection will go absolutely nowhere because the Dems have the House.

According to 3 US Code 15 the votes under objection will be counted if the objection is not agreed by both the House and Senate. If it's split, the votes will count.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

If neither candidate has a majority, Congress votes on and elects the next president and vice president.

Each state’s Delegation of Representatives has one vote. A candidate must receive a majority of delegation votes - as in 26 out of 50 - to become the president.

Trump has a majority of Congressional Delegations.

Moot point since the House will never pass the objections.

[Pressing-On]

Closing remarks at Senate hearing by Trump's attorney Jesse Binnall- “We can't wish voter fraud away. Media so biased that fraud I have seen with my own eyes wasn't there. This is a gaslighting attempt on America. This is real. This happened. We have to address it. We cannot intimidate the problem away. We can't stonewall it away. This is the United States of America. We don’t run from it. We fix it. It is now on all of us to fix it.”

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I have been listening to the Senate Committee hearing on voter fraud. Listening to Chris Krebs trying to get his cred back. Lol! He said no machine tied to Internet, today he said some were. He spent most of the time blaming Trump for everything, including violence.

Jesse Binnall, Trump’s attorney did well. I missed some of the hearing.
However, I did catch this testimony by Bobby Eberle, Ph.D, saying, "Enough election fraud to overturn the election. This Hearing is important because if we come to actual hearing and testimony on January 6th, it sets up the case to move to the other slate of electors."

It's now or never, even if it leads to a so-called, "civil war." There might be some cities burned by ANTIFA, but that is a small price to pay.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by n david

Meanwhile, PA, WI, GA & MI electors cast their votes as expected. There were no faithless electors.


This is partially correct and ironic. It's correct that the court system does not determine who is POTUS, though many, including a few here, have been hoping the SCOTUS would do so.

Congress doesn't determine who will be president. Its role is to verify the electoral college votes and announce the winner of the EC. Now, Congress may debate objections to certain votes and, if the objections are sustained and results in no candidate reaching 270, then Congress would vote for POTUS/VP. But their normal role, their main role, is simply to verify and announce the winner of the EC.


Correct. Congress will jointly meet in the House at 1pm on Jan 6.


Any objections must be in writing and must be signed by at least 1 Senator and 1 Representative.


Majority Leader McConnell had a call with GOP Senators this morning and warned against attempting to challenge the results of the EC votes on Jan 6th.

Ron Johnson has stated he has "no plans" to object the results.

Rep. Mo Brooks is trying to get a Senator to join his objection but thus far has not found anyone who will join him. I doubt he'll persuade any Senator to join him.

Side note about Sidney "Release the Kracken" Powell: Not since QAnon has there been a more disappointing failure of claims made vs reality. I admit that when "Q" first began to release its fanciful stories about "The Storm" and this quiet war vs the "Deep State" that Trump was engaged in ... I thought it was incredible and really hoped it was true. It didn't take long to see that it was a load of garbage.

Same with this Sidney "Kracken" Powell. There was a significant difference between QAnon and Powell, in that she had credibility in being a successful attorney, including as an Assistant US Attorney. But her claims have also been unproven.


IF there is a written objection by a Senator and Representative, the Senate will withdraw from the House and both will debate and vote whether to accept/reject the votes under objection. This is where a lot of disinformation has been going around. When the House and Senate votes to accept or reject the votes under objection, the FULL House votes. I've read in several places that only one House member votes for each state. That is later in the process. For any objections, the full House will vote.

That alone is Game. Set. Match. Start the band and have the fat lady sing, since the Democrats hold the majority there. McConnell referenced this in the phone call this morning. Said any objection will go absolutely nowhere because the Dems have the House.

According to 3 US Code 15 the votes under objection will be counted if the objection is not agreed by both the House and Senate. If it's split, the votes will count.


Moot point since the House will never pass the objections.

Sidney is building a Rico case. I am not sure that it can be done in time.

The Trump team may not pull this off, but I can tell you one thing, anyone who mocks this or doesn’t stand until we can’t stand is not worthy to call themselves a true Patriot of this country.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Originalist

It's now or never, even if it leads to a so-called, "civil war." There might be some cities burned by ANTIFA, but that is a small price to pay.

I am not for a civil war, but I do believe if we had one, Antifa would bring it. I got some info last night that the Supremes were lit up and Roberts was mainly arguing that they would all be responsible for the violence if they heard the Texas case. It is already here.