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Old 05-04-2012, 02:11 PM
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<Now, the original version of Bt used spin 1/2 particles, and what he discovered was that no matter what the settings of the polarizers (that verified the polarization of the 1/2 particles, later verified with photons), the verifying clicks in area A corresponded too strongly to the clicks in area B, statistically, to be explained by chance, thus dismantling Einstein's theory of local causes, which was his postulate for discrediting...all the freaky spin-locking and polarization-slaving we have been slogging through...in other words, Bell verified that Einstein was right, and was wrong to think he wasn't right the first time.> cont'd
Ok, don't get lost here; all Bell really did was (show you how to walk on water)
confirm that Einstein was correct about paired particles staying paired even when we unpair them; or rephrased, that information can be, basically is, communicated in ways that we do not grasp, at least until we mentally enter
that place Scotty illuminated, for reasons which will hopefully become clear.
The goal here is to see our information blind spot, or why truth is "obscured."
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:18 PM
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Ok, don't get lost here; all Bell really did was (show you how to walk on water)
confirm that Einstein was correct about paired particles staying paired even when we unpair them; or rephrased, that information can be, basically is, communicated in ways that we do not grasp, at least until we mentally enter
that place Scotty illuminated, for reasons which will hopefully become clear.
The goal here is to see our information blind spot, or why truth is "obscured."
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...90#post1159790

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Old 05-05-2012, 09:56 AM
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I accept that altered phsycological position. As long as I don't have to get stoned again,though due to damage already done,some areas of my mentality remain in an altered state.
Let me tell you, the first time you wake up--ok, well, you may have awakened once or twice already in your life, for a second--to an angel (a servant to you, in the real world) sitting on your nightstand (where it hangs all night, while you sleep) you are going to get some "altered state."

Today we will bring Bt into the macro world, the world we "see;"
or drag the macro to Bt, whatever. It will surely be anti-climactic
at first read, like most profound truths, until you are able to
hear it with diff ears; but being a Law (albeit a physical one)
it's prolly best to get it out there.
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Old 05-05-2012, 11:44 AM
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Bt showed that either the statistical predictions of QT or the principle of local causes is false. It didn't say which, but only that both can't be true. When it was confirmed that the stat predictions of QT were correct

(by some other guys we never heard of--the ones who did a variation of the polarized photon pair thing; they turned on the photo-multiplier tube, the thing that "clicks" to indicate that it has just detected a <single> photon <from a former "pair"> that was in fact polarized correctly <representing your POV>)

the startling conclusion was inescapable: the principle of local causes--Einstein's postulate for discounting "superluminal," or faster-than-light communication--must be false. However, if the principle of local causes fails, and hence, the world is not the way it appears to be, then what is the true nature of the world?

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Old 05-05-2012, 12:25 PM
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There are several mutually exclusive possibilities. The first possibility, which we have been discussing, is that, appearances to the contrary, there really may be no such thing as "separate parts" in our world ("locality fails," in the dialect of physics). In that case, the idea that events <genocide, for instance> are autonomous happenings is an illusion.

This would be the case for any "separate parts" that have ever interacted with each other. When "separate parts" interact with each other, they (their wave functions) become correlated (through the exchange of conventional signals)(forces).

<And should all this parenthetical explanation be getting to you, note that I am editing most of that out!>

Unless this correlation is disrupted by other external forces, the wave functions representing these "separate parts" remain correlated forever (If the Big Bang theory is correct, the entire universe is initially correlated).

For such correlated "separate parts," what an "experimenter" does in this area has an intrinsic effect upon the results of an "experiment" in a distant, space-like separated area.

<So physics is explaining your religion now, from an "atheistic" pov.>
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Old 05-05-2012, 01:35 PM
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In this sense, Bt <is> the Trojan horse in the physicists' camp; first, because it proves that QT requires connections that appear to resemble telepathic communication, and second, because it provides the mathematical framework thru which serious physicists (all physicists are serious) could find themselves discussing types of phenomena which, ironically, they do not believe exist.
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Ok, this isn't coming out at all like I planned, but Truth Obscured
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:03 PM
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Proverbs 18:9 Amplified

"He who is loose and slack in his work is brother to him who is a destroyer and [a]he who does not use his endeavors to heal himself is brother to him who commits suicide."

"Endeavors" here being translated "go to the Doctor," I guess. "Doing what might be considered normal in the circumstances." See commentaries.
But seems to agree with most of us, @
"Believe and understand that healings
occur by faith; but if you need a Dr go see a Dr?"

Something this illuminates, to me,
is just what our def of "faith" is here;
to us, it's an effort we make with our...intellect?
in that moment it comes to mind-
-and I'm all for positive thinking, but
"faith" is more reflected in the actions
that led up to needing the healing in the first place.

Maybe not always? A cigarette smoker believing for
a cure for lung cancer being the obvious, but there are
many similar ways to manifest what you don't want
whose connections are not as clear, imo.

Eat CAFO meat, deny yourself a vital
couple nutrients (Omega3 and D),
entertain the host of ills, while
"believing" for their cure?

A list of a hundred would be cool : )

2) ...

(the more...obscure the better?)

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Old 05-14-2012, 08:51 AM
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Um, ten?
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Old 05-14-2012, 09:26 AM
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2) You're driving at night, in a winter storm. You hit a patch of ice, the tires lose traction, and the car starts to spin. What do you do? What do you do?

You throw up your hands and cry, "Jesus take the wheel!" Of course! Just as you would in good weather when someone cuts you off and you're just about to crash if you don't slow down immediately. "Jesus take the wheel!" Or there's a fog so thick you can't see two feet in front of the car. Have Jesus take over. He can see through it, and He's a much better driver than you, for sure.

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