Television Issue!

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Have you seen Larkrise to Candleford? You and your girls would love it! So quaint, charming and silly! My husband hates it! LOL! After viewing, I purchased the seasons at Amazon. The fourth season is just coming out. I back ordered it and got the e-mail today that it's been shipped!!! Can't wait to see how it ended!!!!!!!

No, we haven't seen it. I added it to our queue--we love stuff like that. My girls were completely charmed by Pride and Prejudice (the 2005 version). Sarah occasionally says, "Mrs. Darcy, Mrs. Darcy, Mrs. Darcy" out of the blue.

[onefaith2]

To clarify so I'm not called a hypocrite or liar.

THe AOF is binding on ministers to agree to the articles of faith if they are licensed.

These articles do not disallow for people to choose for themselves at their own peril.

When I say the articles allow TV for limited viewing, I mean for vcr, DVDs, or something that isn't cable/satellite broadcasting where essentially the TV is a monitor.

My apologies to NOW for any statements misleading or causing him to develop such an opinion about me.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by onefaith2

When the WPF was initially formed before the new website, I check it out because so many of my mentors are there. They mentioned no hollywood DVD's and other mediums. I should have placed emphasis on hollywood movie dvds because they use DVD for their services, some do.

but their articles of faith or revised say clearly that no mediums of hollywood style movies are allowed


The believer abstains from purveyors of all such, including, but not limited to, prurient print material, unclean musical acts and songs, and musical productions (I Corinthians 15:33), Hollywood-style movies, and television, worldly sports, improper internet content, and all other forms and mediums of such (Deuteronomy 7:26).(WPF articles of faith)

That statement is quite different than We admonish all of our people to abstain from these activities in the interest of spiritual progress. (from UPC)

One connotates a believer will always abstain, the other connotes we admonish our people (believers) to abstain.

Do you see the difference there?

I will guarantee you that they do not preach against all DVD's, as many of those in leadership have some form of DVD's in their home.
To wit, the every present Veggie Tales dvd's.
They do preach against "ungodly" DVD's.

[onefaith2]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

I will guarantee you that they do not preach against all DVD's, as many of those in leadership have some form of DVD's in their home.
To wit, the every present Veggie Tales dvd's.
They do preach against "ungodly" DVD's.

Hey I believe you. I just posted what they put on their articles of faith. The way its worded the believer abstains from anything hollywood created.

For instance the UPC AOF state limited usage for educational, religious, and family purposes. Perhaps the WPF will add that too.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

No, we haven't seen it. I added it to our queue--we love stuff like that. My girls were completely charmed by Pride and Prejudice (the 2005 version). Sarah occasionally says, "Mrs. Darcy, Mrs. Darcy, Mrs. Darcy" out of the blue.

LOL!

Let me know how you like it. I don't know when they will carry Season Four. Pretty lengthy - Season One is 582 minutes, Season two is 719, Season three is 720 and Season Four is 720. LOL!

If you haven't seen Emma with Romola Garai, it's my favorite. I like it better than the others. Although the one with Kate Beckinsale is great too! Costuming, scenery, script - it's great! The one with Gwyneth Paltrow is my third choice, although it is also very done well.

If it is a British movie - I probably own it.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by onefaith2

To clarify so I'm not called a hypocrite or liar.

THe AOF is binding on ministers to agree to the articles of faith if they are licensed.

These articles do not disallow for people to choose for themselves at their own peril.

When I say the articles allow TV for limited viewing, I mean for vcr, DVDs, or something that isn't cable/satellite broadcasting where essentially the TV is a monitor.

My apologies to NOW for any statements misleading or causing him to develop such an opinion about me.

Right. And I've heard it preached, "I'm not going to preach against television, but I'm certainly not going to encourage you to go out and buy one either."

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by notofworks

That's just not true. The Articles of Faith say, "Our people." THAT'S YOU...(if you attend a UPC church). It calls TV "Satanic." That's quite a bit stronger than "disapprove."

The AOF says "WE (the UPC officially) disapprove"

It does not say "we forbid" meaning you have to obey to be a member

Saying "I disapprove" is a personal statement of how someone feels

Saying "I forbid" is a lot stronger.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Just trying to keep you honest. If you're a UPCer and you watch TV, you're being dishonest.

You'd only be dishonest if you lied about something or was deceitful about something. Your accusation is false

[unitedpraise10]

Originally Posted by notofworks

My thought is, your blatant disobedience to what the guidelines of your organization demand, isn't pleasing to God. If you have Charter cable TV while the Article of Faith clearly state that it's "Disapproved of", you should do the honorable thing and get rid of it, or be honest with yourself and leave the UPC.

Every church is different!! At my church, we don't follow that guideline! The pastor sets the guidelines for his congregation....not the manual!

[unitedpraise10]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Wouldn't that only be if he held a UPC license?

lol...yes! I'm a music minister. UPCI doesn't have music minister licences! Furthermore, I will clarify that I'm not a big TV person. I rarely turn it on. I will admit that I record American Idol every week. Sometimes I don't even watch it. I simply do not have time for it!