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03-01-2011, 06:33 PM
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Re: Church of Champions and Christian Tabernacle
saying shut up is very mean! ok you want scripture here it is...and don't try to rationalize why it means something else. either state your scritpure or leave it alone.
1 Cor. 11.
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03-01-2011, 06:33 PM
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Re: Church of Champions and Christian Tabernacle
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You're not very "kute" afterall. You state that a woman can not cut her hair. We ask for you to show us the text. You say something like we are familiar with it and know where it is. Either you can show us the prohibition in scripture or not. Don't accuse us of having bad attitudes. Well, maybe after this: "put up, or shut up!"
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ok well that wasn't very nice either :-)
Here are the plain facts. Kute claims the bible teaches women should not cut their hair, yet she says if they want to, go for it. Houston claims the bible does not say not to cut hair. Kute asks "where does the bible say women can cut their hair" and Houston is saying Kute is the one that says the bible says a woman can't cut her hair so if she really wants to discuss it she should support her claim.
Kute, the fact is not everyone agrees 1Cor is teaching a woman can't cut her hair. And oddly though you seem to say it's not a sin anyways...
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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03-01-2011, 06:34 PM
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Re: Church of Champions and Christian Tabernacle
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I am NOT going into this conversation any further. Since you are on this group I assume you know the scriptures to which we get this point of view from. It is not wacked to have this view point. It is very valid. It is not, imo, a salvation issue so if somebody wants to cut their hair I say let them; if they don't want to cut their hair leave them alone about the issue.
If you're going to put me down then please back up what you say with scripture.
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kute1 - there is no point in debating these issues. Everyone here believes that they are right, including me.
Everyone here has heard all the sides of the argument and chooses to believe what they wish.
On my part, I "try" to bash no one's viewpoint, except in the political section!!!
I threw my two cents worth here, because I am what most here call an ultra-conservative, and I grow weary of the constant drumbeat that anyone who believes in any standard is biblically incorrect.
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03-01-2011, 06:34 PM
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Re: Church of Champions and Christian Tabernacle
And I have asked you to show scripture for your point of view and you have yet to do so.
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03-01-2011, 06:35 PM
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Re: Church of Champions and Christian Tabernacle
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saying shut up is very mean! ok you want scripture here it is...and don't try to rationalize why it means something else. either state your scritpure or leave it alone.
1 Cor. 11.
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Saying everyone is mean when they haven't said anything mean, is not nice. I think Houston is reacting to you calling everyone mean
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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03-01-2011, 06:36 PM
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Re: Church of Champions and Christian Tabernacle
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And I have asked you to show scripture for your point of view and you have yet to do so.
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Kute, can you use the quote button please? Nobody knows who you are responding to
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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03-01-2011, 06:38 PM
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Re: Church of Champions and Christian Tabernacle
I can't even keep up here. I did not want to argue with anyone which is why I did not post scripture. You all know it and I know that too. The ONLY reason I joined this forum today was to get input about Church of Champions. I do feel as though people are putting me down for my point of view and I do think that is mean. I have tried to drop this several times and even asked for a private message to be sent. It is not right to keep nagging me about the situation. I have said my peace several times and asked for you to state scripture. I do realize this has been debated so why are people debating it with me?
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03-01-2011, 06:38 PM
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Re: Church of Champions and Christian Tabernacle
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Houston, you are confusing me. This is my first time on this forum so give me some time to figure out how everything works. I can't tell if you are trying to reply to what I said or not. Anyway, the bible is very clear on several issues that are considered "standards." It is clear that women are not to cut their hair. It is also VERY clear in the bible that God does not want his children to adorn themselves with jewels. As far as women wearing pants goes well we all know that the bible does not say that women shold not wear them, but it does teach us to live holy. Many people think they should wear dresses so why not let them wear them if they feel like they should. Just my opinion, no need for you to be harsh.
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UM BAHAHAHA Yes it does. Go read it and look up the meaning of the words and you will find out it does. Since you are commenting so I am assuming you know where to find these verses.
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I don't know what a clothes line Pentecostal is, but it sounds negative. I'm not looking for any amens. You do what's right for you and I'll do what's right for me.
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kute1, you are so far out of your depth here. I feel compassion for you. May be you could PM (private message) one of the members of the forum who could help you. May I suggest a forum member by the name "mizpeh". She is a great Christian lady and is very patient. I know she would be glad to correspond with you. God bless you...
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03-01-2011, 06:41 PM
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Re: Church of Champions and Christian Tabernacle
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I can't even keep up here. I did not want to argue with anyone which is why I did not post scripture. You all know it and I know that too. The ONLY reason I joined this forum today was to get input about Church of Champions. I do feel as though people are putting me down for my point of view and I do think that is mean. I have tried to drop this several times and even asked for a private message to be sent. It is not right to keep nagging me about the situation. I have said my peace several times and asked for you to state scripture. I do realize this has been debated so why are people debating it with me?
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Kute, can you please use the quote button so we know who you are responding to?
As for "debating", remember I asked you about it, you said you did not want to, then you started debating it. If you don't want to dabate it then stop making assertions and demanding people quote scriptures.
Nobody put you down for your point of view. Please quote where someone put you down before you started calling everyone mean..
Nobody is nagging you. You keep making statements about things and people are responding to it. If you don't want to discuss something then just don't say anything. You can't expect people to read what you say and not have an opinion on what you said too
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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03-01-2011, 06:41 PM
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Re: Church of Champions and Christian Tabernacle
so far out of my depth? how? because of my point of view or because I can't navigate the forum?
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