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They got out in 1968 Elder Haymon was one of the original members of the AMF he was the missionary director for several years however he has been independent since sometime in the 80's. Carp thank you for your rational reponse to this foollishness.
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Were you AMF guys too liberal for him? LOL!!!! 
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12-12-2007, 11:10 PM
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I Personally think you all are being a little hard on the Haymon's.
They are just simply pointing out that she at one time attended their church and was baptized there and probably had a Big spiritual impact on her life which seemed evident in her interviews
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EXACTLY what I thought., leave it to others to take a negative spin on it.
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12-13-2007, 12:32 AM
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12-13-2007, 12:33 AM
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EXACTLY what I thought., leave it to others to take a negative spin on it.
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12-13-2007, 12:48 AM
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I find it very non surprising that dudes that don't even know that Bro. Haymon isn't UPC are ready to offer him to the wolves.
Sigh, anytime something controversial hits the waves, it acts like a lightening rod to ignoramuses and malcontents. Prime and Godly example of leadership, fellows. You guys are prime candidates for the first row to see Jesus writing in the sand.
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12-13-2007, 03:54 AM
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http://www.cacdenver.org/
THIS FROM PASTOR HAYMON"S CHURCH WEBSITE!!!!
Greetings, and Praise the Lord!
You’ve probably heard by now of the armed female security guard at the Colorado Springs church who stopped a gunman on a rampage last Sunday. Headlines in every news agency around the country have carried proclamations hailing her as a “Hero” who, “On Assignment from God,” “Stopped Carnage in Colorado” and “Saved Over 100 Lives.” Her name is Jeanne Assam.
Jeanne Assam (AP Photo) If you saw her picture in the news, did she look familiar? Probably so, because she came to CAC for several weeks in 2006. IN FACT, SHE WAS BAPTIZED IN JESUS’ NAME AT OUR CHURCH!
Sam C. Kelly met her at his job downtown. He and his wife, Alison, befriended her, and began introducing the precious gospel of Acts 2:38. She received the revelation of Jesus’ Name baptism, requesting to be baptized between services. She, along with the Kellys and I, met for prayer, and a very joyful, Biblical baptism.
Since then, her job moved her to Colorado Springs, where she’s been attending New Life Church.
Let’s agree together in prayer for the Lord to protect and guide Jeanne in this very demanding time of high-profile media coverage. She’s done a remarkable job of publicly giving God credit for her calmness in the face of danger and her miraculous success in the face of insurmountable odds. Also, let’s pray for the fullness of Holy Ghost salvation to be revealed in and through her. PRAISE GOD FOR ALLOWING CAC TO PLAY A ROLE IN JEANNE ASSAM’S LIFE!!
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I drive by New Life Church on a regular basis, their property is very large, and that is a very rural area of Colorado Springs. This shooting has really affected Colorado Springs as not much goes on here; big place at a slow pace. It was a blessing that Jeanne Assam was where she was at the time she was. Amen that she has been baptized in the wonderful name of Jesus!!! I pray she receives the Holy Ghost (if she has not already).
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Originally Posted by Straightline
Carpenter: Thank you for the balanced, personal perspective.
The message I caught through the articles was: "If someone from our church hadn't reached out to her, invited her to church, helped begin her spiritual journey, she would have remained un-churched and not have been in that church service to give the aid she did".
Is it wrong to point out to the folks of your assembly that outreach works? That any effort to reach the lost has far-reaching positive effects?
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She was not "un-churched" before meeting the folks from CAC, she was "un-baptized in Jesus' name."
And to correct Carp's statement, she didn't go on a fast "after" the incident, she had just completed the fast the morning of the incident. Minor point.
And the website does seem like a bit of grand standing to me. It reminds me of the year long debate at Wikipedia.org on the subject of NBA star David Robinson being a "famous member of the UPC." Some UPC guys wanted that to stand even though Robinson only briefly attended a former UPC church.
And as to whether or not the pastor in question is "boastful," I don't know. But you can ask his limo chauffeur.
The website speaks for itself, leave it that.
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12-13-2007, 07:11 AM
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Were you AMF guys too liberal for him? LOL!!!! |
You will love this. He left the AMF because he elected advertize on television.
He did not get much if any results but that was his reason.
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12-13-2007, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jekyll
I find it very non surprising that dudes that don't even know that Bro. Haymon isn't UPC are ready to offer him to the wolves.
Sigh, anytime something controversial hits the waves, it acts like a lightening rod to ignoramuses and malcontents. Prime and Godly example of leadership, fellows. You guys are prime candidates for the first row to see Jesus writing in the sand.
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Jekyll....why don't you just call me by name in your post? First, I do not know anything about Colorado politics, other than I have a relative who pastors there. Haymon's obvious close relationship with the UPC (having UPCers in his pulpit and conferences regularly) made me think he was. I guess I could have looked in the manual to see if he was a member in good standing...but anyway, that is not the issue.
Listen, whether this was written by Haymon, Paula White, Kenneth Haney, Gordon Poe, Lee Stoneking, Sam Emory, Nate Wilson, Juanita Bynum, Steve Munsey, Larry Booker, Paul Mooney, Paul Morton, Anthony Mangun, etc.....I would say the same thing...not about the person, but about the article itself. Your opinion of the article and my opinion are at opposite ends, obviously. That is okay. But the implication that I am an ignoramus and malcontent and the first to throw a stone...you know nothing about me.
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12-13-2007, 09:55 AM
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I think it is awesome that she has been baptized in Jesus, name.
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