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Old 07-09-2010, 07:53 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates

In all the recent hoopla I forgot to post the latest attempts by "John Johnson" at SEU (Southern Eastern University) to remove the negative comments about his "school."

"As I understand you, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, you say you are a lawyer and appear to have a religious conviction. If I am right I feel that you are a disgrace to the legal profession and practice some obscure sense of faith.

As someone within the legal sector you should be aware that the truth can be presented in many ways you have chosen to present SEU in a schoolboy way to have fun whilst at the same time following what appears to be some agenda of your own involving Lee Stoneking without any thought to the effects of your actions.

In relation to your obscure sense of faith my understanding is that one of the common themes running through faiths is to the effect of 'do unto others as you would have done to yourself' this may be a biological need to ensure the survival of humans but nonetheless it appears in most faiths. Can you honestly say you have done unto others as you would have done to yourself?"

Truth can be presented in many ways? Hmmmmm
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:57 PM
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In all the recent hoopla I forgot to post the latest attempts by "John Johnson" at SEU (Southern Eastern University) to remove the negative comments about his "school."

"As I understand you, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, you say you are a lawyer and appear to have a religious conviction. If I am right I feel that you are a disgrace to the legal profession and practice some obscure sense of faith.

As someone within the legal sector you should be aware that the truth can be presented in many ways you have chosen to present SEU in a schoolboy way to have fun whilst at the same time following what appears to be some agenda of your own involving Lee Stoneking without any thought to the effects of your actions.

In relation to your obscure sense of faith my understanding is that one of the common themes running through faiths is to the effect of 'do unto others as you would have done to yourself' this may be a biological need to ensure the survival of humans but nonetheless it appears in most faiths. Can you honestly say you have done unto others as you would have done to yourself?"

Truth can be presented in many ways? Hmmmmm
Well, at least he's partly right:


". . . and practice some obscure sense of faith."

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Old 07-09-2010, 08:03 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates

He has already addressed the church and stepped down from various positions but as far as the TRUTH is concerned no one addressed him instead it was placed on a public forum as an attack there is no sin in this case he has been involved in theologigal study for the past ten years isn't that long enough to attain to a doctorate or phd seeing as he had other schooling prior to that as for Bro. LS how long has he been involved in ministry if people bestow honors on you for a life time of good works who's looking to see hey is this legit or thank GOD all my hard work has paid off we even myself don't have a clue as to all the man hours put into the labor that these men have done yet you so readily accuse someone of misconduct BEFORE you have spoken to them or gone to the upci board to place a formal complaint instead we get a tidbit of information and its off to the races, maybe these are just two men who have worked hard for the kingdom and were not given the full explaination do think they were approached hey you want some bogus degrees and their response was sure this will make me look good , my LORD what goes on in the minds of people if YOU have ought against your brother go to him so why didn't any of you do that before it was brought here ask yourself what spirit it was, the truth being brought outis in reference to GOD shedding light on the facts not angry disgruntled people I'm not covering my Pastor I'm standing next to him in reference to his character over the last ten years but no one wants to address that instead let's get mad at the poor guy for the fact he was offered a degree after years of study but you don't know this because you don't know him , I do.
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He has already addressed the church and stepped down from various positions but as far as the TRUTH is concerned no one addressed him instead it was placed on a public forum as an attack there is no sin in this case he has been involved in theologigal study for the past ten years isn't that long enough to attain to a doctorate or phd seeing as he had other schooling prior to that as for Bro. LS how long has he been involved in ministry if people bestow honors on you for a life time of good works who's looking to see hey is this legit or thank GOD all my hard work has paid off we even myself don't have a clue as to all the man hours put into the labor that these men have done yet you so readily accuse someone of misconduct BEFORE you have spoken to them or gone to the upci board to place a formal complaint instead we get a tidbit of information and its off to the races, maybe these are just two men who have worked hard for the kingdom and were not given the full explaination do think they were approached hey you want some bogus degrees and their response was sure this will make me look good , my LORD what goes on in the minds of people if YOU have ought against your brother go to him so why didn't any of you do that before it was brought here ask yourself what spirit it was, the truth being brought outis in reference to GOD shedding light on the facts not angry disgruntled people I'm not covering my Pastor I'm standing next to him in reference to his character over the last ten years but no one wants to address that instead let's get mad at the poor guy for the fact he was offered a degree after years of study but you don't know this because you don't know him , I do.
I can understand you standing by your pastor. But this is much bigger than your pastor. We did not expose the bogus degree to somehow damage the reputation of your pastor. He inserted himself in this thread, apparently at the goading of Mr. Boora, for the purpose of defending Lee Stoneking.

Unfortunately for your pastor he involved himself with a man that had been fingered in purchasing a bogus diploma and on the "faculty" of at least two more, not to mention being involved with a man who has been accused of child rape.
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Well, at least he's partly right:


". . . and practice some obscure sense of faith."

Thanks for all the love and support Timmy. LOL.
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:14 PM
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He has already addressed the church and stepped down from various positions but as far as the TRUTH is concerned no one addressed him instead it was placed on a public forum as an attack there is no sin in this case he has been involved in theologigal study for the past ten years isn't that long enough to attain to a doctorate or phd seeing as he had other schooling prior to that as for Bro. LS how long has he been involved in ministry if people bestow honors on you for a life time of good works who's looking to see hey is this legit or thank GOD all my hard work has paid off we even myself don't have a clue as to all the man hours put into the labor that these men have done yet you so readily accuse someone of misconduct BEFORE you have spoken to them or gone to the upci board to place a formal complaint instead we get a tidbit of information and its off to the races, maybe these are just two men who have worked hard for the kingdom and were not given the full explaination do think they were approached hey you want some bogus degrees and their response was sure this will make me look good , my LORD what goes on in the minds of people if YOU have ought against your brother go to him so why didn't any of you do that before it was brought here ask yourself what spirit it was, the truth being brought outis in reference to GOD shedding light on the facts not angry disgruntled people I'm not covering my Pastor I'm standing next to him in reference to his character over the last ten years but no one wants to address that instead let's get mad at the poor guy for the fact he was offered a degree after years of study but you don't know this because you don't know him , I do.
I don't know anyone on AFF that filed a formal complaint with the UPCI.
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:17 PM
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I don't know anyone on AFF that filed a formal complaint with the UPCI.
Dan I think he/she is saying, with the longest sentence I have ever seen, that we should have done that.
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Wow here I am on this board thread or whatever you choose.
I decided to google some names to see what turned up and to see what the hooey is all about.I know Pastor Wilson personally I was not asked to speak on his behalf but he IS my Pastor. I've been with the church since its early beginings I'm not educated as are some of you. But as a man with some understanding as to what MY Pastors life is like I can say he is a man of integrity , compassion ,honorable. I've watched him pay electric bills ,heating bills, buy cars , pay rent ,purchase groceries for people in his church .Visit the sick ,go to the prisons,pray in the community for those in need, I've seen him at the church all hours of the night praying for revival in GOD's churches in and around our state . I've seen him give up family time to help other families stay together. Find places to stay for youths without homes. The list could go on I've watched him grow as a man as a father as a Pastor HE is a man of GOD. I believe he is doing the best he can and I know he has put in years of study too many subjects to list as I have also followed his lead in trying to further grasp the one WE call GOD.I hope you understand the accusations could possibly hurt the saints at our church especially our new converts . A wise man hears the whole matter before he speaks ,maybe we should put this to practice in our posts he is available by phone maybe a call, a conversation amongst men could have taken place before you tried to drag the brother through the mud. He is my Pastor and I would appreciate that you leave him out of this mess as we are growing a church in JESUS, hundreds have been born again because of this church and I believe we will reach thousands in JESUS NAME. Thank you all for your support in this matter. Me
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He has already addressed the church and stepped down from various positions but as far as the TRUTH is concerned no one addressed him instead it was placed on a public forum as an attack there is no sin in this case he has been involved in theologigal study for the past ten years isn't that long enough to attain to a doctorate or phd seeing as he had other schooling prior to that as for Bro. LS how long has he been involved in ministry if people bestow honors on you for a life time of good works who's looking to see hey is this legit or thank GOD all my hard work has paid off we even myself don't have a clue as to all the man hours put into the labor that these men have done yet you so readily accuse someone of misconduct BEFORE you have spoken to them or gone to the upci board to place a formal complaint instead we get a tidbit of information and its off to the races, maybe these are just two men who have worked hard for the kingdom and were not given the full explaination do think they were approached hey you want some bogus degrees and their response was sure this will make me look good , my LORD what goes on in the minds of people if YOU have ought against your brother go to him so why didn't any of you do that before it was brought here ask yourself what spirit it was, the truth being brought outis in reference to GOD shedding light on the facts not angry disgruntled people I'm not covering my Pastor I'm standing next to him in reference to his character over the last ten years but no one wants to address that instead let's get mad at the poor guy for the fact he was offered a degree after years of study but you don't know this because you don't know him , I do.
No one here is trying to run your pastor through the mud on this. In fact, most have said he was a victim. That being said, those who brought these facts to light had every right and even a duty to do so. Don't blame them for uncovering the truth. Don't blame them for making public that a degree, which your pastor made a public claim of having, was actually a fake.

I will say this also: Upon hearing that this degree was a fake your pastor has done every right and noble thing. His actions speak volumes and will eventually redeem his reputation from any blemish this incident might cause.
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Any question that the The National Association of Licensed Paralegals (NALP) is associated with a Mr. John Stacy-Hibbert of the diploma mill Southern Eastern University ... of which Kulwant Boora worked for as a law tutor ... NALP that is ....

is confirmed through a WhoIs of NALP's domain registration:

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Domain name:
nationalparalegals.co.uk

Registrant:
John Stacey-Hibbert

Registrant type:
Unknown

Registrant's address:
21 Southernhay West
Exeter, Devon
Exeter
Devon
EX1 1PR
Unknown
EX1 1PR
United Kingdom

Registrar:
Pi Internet Ltd t/a Pi Internet Ltd [Tag = PIINTERNET]
URL: http://www.pir2.net

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 01-May-2002
Renewal date: 01-May-2012
Last updated: 08-Jul-2010

Registration status:
Registered until renewal date.

Name servers:
chi.piinternet.co.uk 194.72.51.104
phi.piinternet.co.uk 194.72.51.105

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