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pelathais · #**1211** 07-09-2010, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

Pel pal, personally I believe the evidence is clear and convincing that Boora acted sua sponte. Either he felt he needed to take it on himself to protect Stoneking and others or he was trying to defend himself and livelihood derived from various diploma mills.

KB according to his own CV cannot practice law in the US since all jurisdictions here require law school. What is fascinating is from the inception he/they claimed to be protecting LS’s British interests. Really? What nexus is there to posts on this forum?

IF indeed it turns out that KB is not and has not been licensed even in England that would indeed be huge, since he has held out in numerous times, places and manners that he is.

Whether LS’s legal rep or not, if he is behind the call to Baron claiming to an investigating member of the DC bar, according to Griffin that may have even crossed the line to criminal.

Even without that it appears he has at least been linked to several criminal enterprises, ie diploma mills shut down by various governmental entities. (Hardly the person I would want defending my credentials)

As an aside in this truly bizarre episode, a collateral damage could be his ability to be taken seriously as a Oneness doctrinal author.

One can be an addict and still be an excellent attorney, a wife abuser but excellent doctor, but when it comes to theology unfortunately the character of the author becomes inextricably intertwined with his character.

The saga continues....

I agree with your analysis here, however I still think that there's a ball in Lee Stoneking's court to respond as well. Brother Boora will have to answer for his calls and misrepresentations himself, but LS has - at least in my mind - an obligation to respond as well when someone has claimed to be representing him in a legal manner.

While looking for a Boora in the ILEX database I came across several cases of misconduct by "Legal Executives." One particular case involved a Legal Executive who signed some papers on behalf of her client instead of having that client sign as required. She essentially misrepresented herself as acting on behalf of her client without her client's knowledge. That got her a two year suspension.

Can Lee help our understanding here? Was this entire AFF board threatened with being "shut down" by his legal representatives as it was stated on the AMF board?

DAII · #**1212** 07-09-2010, 07:51 AM

2004 FLASHBACK

The links and relationship Kal Boora has with P. Bradley Carey go back some time ...

Here is Kal Boora's Curriculum Vitae when he and Bradley Carey were professors at the diploma mill cartel St. Regis University ... and also the Institute for Christian Works ...

http://web.archive.org/web/200412170...bio-kboora.htm

He is listed here as part of the board of trustees of the Institute and a "member of the UPCI".

Also listed in the 2004 faculty staff and alumni: Arthur C. Wilson

http://web.archive.org/web/200412071...org/alumni.htm

I must believe Art knew Kal for at least the past 6 years.

ManOfWord · #**1213** 07-09-2010, 07:54 AM

"Who is that man behind the curtain?" Never mind, the man behind the curtain, pay attention the IMAGE. "But the man behind the curtain is pulling all of the levers!" Never mind what you see, pay attention to the IMAGE. "But it doesn't seem right!" It doesn't have to seem right. Just pay attention to the IMAGE! The IMAGE is all powerful and will help you and save you and take care of you! AND if you can just get the sick and afflicted to the IMAGE, they will all be healed and delivered. "Yes, but what about the man behind the curtain?" Never mind the man behind the curtain. It's irrelevant to your needs. Ask no questions. Submit to the IMAGE!

The above certainly can be used with many names and faces....many of you can probably fill them in based upon your experiences and circumstances. But the mantra is the same. Ignore the facts and submit. However, when one gets outside and pulls the curtain back and sees the "little" man who seems all powerful, a certain innocence is lost. At that point, it is easy for cynicism to set in and trust no one any further, especially those in authority. But that is not an acceptable way of life either.

What needs to happen is for honesty, integrity and transparency to rise to the forefront in leadership. Trust can be rebuilt but not from "commands." Healthy skepticism is not a lack of faith...it is smart and necessary to keep from being scammed. Can it go too far? Certainly! And that is the struggle we always face. A struggle for balance. However, when individuals or groups spend a horrendous amount of time trying keep certain doors closed when questions are asked, don't expect the ones who have seen the man behind the curtain to walk away. They will try the knob. They will pick the lock. They will take the hinges off the door or they may even break the door down! Why? To get IN? Absolutely not! To let truth OUT! It's not a robbery! It's a rescue! Jesus said truth would set us free. Let us, none of us EVER be afraid of the truth, no matter what it reveals.

Standards · #**1214** 07-09-2010, 08:00 AM

Can somebody tell me whether or not Bro. Stoneking is preaching the HMH doctrine everywhere he goes? I'm wondering if he only preaches it when he's asked to. It's one thing to preach something one time and only repreach it when you have requests to do so. It's quite another to preach it everywhere without the permission of the pastor. Personally, I would not allow him to preach in our church if he used the pulpit to promote this false doctrine. I repect Bro. Stoneking as an elder, but he is in error.

jfrog · #**1215** 07-09-2010, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DAII

2004 FLASHBACK

The links and relationship Kal Boora has with P. Bradley Carey go back some time ...

Here is Kal Boora's Curriculum Vitae when he and Bradley Carey were professors at the diploma mill cartel St. Regis and also the Institute for Christian Works ...

http://web.archive.org/web/200412170...bio-kboora.htm

He is listed here as part of the board of trustees of the Institute and a "member of the UPCI".

Also listed in the 2004 faculty staff and alumni: Arthur C. Wilson

http://web.archive.org/web/200412071...org/alumni.htm

I must believe Art knew Kal for at least the past 6 years.

Does that fact change anything in relation to his apology and distancing of himself from these institutions and individuals?

ManOfWord · #**1216** 07-09-2010, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Standards

Can somebody tell me whether or not Bro. Stoneking is preaching the HMH doctrine everywhere he goes? I'm wondering if he only preaches it when he's asked to. It's one thing to preach something one time and only repreach it when you have requests to do so. It's quite another to preach it everywhere without the permission of the pastor. Personally, I would not allow him to preach in our church if he used the pulpit to promote this false doctrine. I repect Bro. Stoneking as an elder, but he is in error.

Sorry, can't respect an elder in error.

DAII · #**1217** 07-09-2010, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

Does that fact change anything in relation to his apology and distancing of himself from these institutions and individuals?

Arthur Corley Wilson goes back to the Institute, Boora and Bradley as early as 2003 ...
http://web.archive.org/web/200310030...org/alumni.htm

His distancing with the Institute is premised on essentially being "duped".

jfrog · #**1218** 07-09-2010, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DAII

A. Wilson goes back to the Institute, Boora and Bradley as early as 2003 ...
http://web.archive.org/web/200310030...wseminary.org/

His distancing with the Institute is premised on essentially being "duped".

It's hard to imagine someone being duped for 7 years.

pelathais · #**1219** 07-09-2010, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DAII

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http://web.archive.org/web/200412071...org/alumni.htm

I must believe Art knew Kal for at least the past 6 years.

Okay, okay. I've uncovered the REAL reason behind DA2's behavior here. Just check out the sorts of things that Kal Boora's "World Natural Health Organization" have uncovered!

http://web.archive.org/web/200412232...mtrailnews.htm

IT'S THE GOVIMINT! They've been spraying chemicals in our skies that make us want to go to college and earn a degree.

* * * *
Brothers and Sisters of the Apostolic Faith - can we PLEASE not get hooked up with these crazed nuts? These are jet contrails. You can stand there and watch the plane fly overhead. Argh!

DAII · #**1220** 07-09-2010, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Okay, okay. I've uncovered the REAL reason behind DA2's behavior here. Just check out the sorts of things that Kal Boora's "World Natural Health Organization" have uncovered!

http://web.archive.org/web/200412232...mtrailnews.htm

IT'S THE GOVIMINT! They've been spraying chemicals in our skies that make us want to go to college and earn a degree.

* * * *
Brothers and Sisters of the Apostolic Faith - can we PLEASE not get hooked up with these crazed nuts? These are jet contrails. You can stand there and watch the plane fly overhead. Argh!

Dr. P. Bradley Carey was a regular caller it appears on the Art Bell Coast to Coast show ... some links forthcoming.