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[pelathais]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

I dont' have a problem with this in principle Pel. You know this. I just think to play drama queen over a phone number given the nature and content of this thread is absurd.

You participated and conspired to hide the identity of a caller (Boora) who went on to misrepresent himself as a member of the Washington DC Bar Association.

You then went on another forum and crowed about how a "lawyer" was going to bring down AFF. The whole affair involved misrepresentation and deceit.

Boora and the others made the fraudulent claims that fueled this thread. They publicly deceived the brethren with regard to their credentials. Exposing that fraud by linking to news stories and even police and court records is a service to Oneness community at large.

You, by your actions, have sought to obfuscate and even facilitate the deception. I trusted you, Bro. I spoke up for you all along the way. Please don't let me down.

[JN Anderson]

Originally Posted by DAII

Bro, this is the problem with your brand of apologetics. It falls like a deck of cards when questioned ... You defend what needs no defense .... Truth

Please explain further...what is my brand of apologetics DA?

[MrMasterMind]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

MrMasterMind, get this straight. My ministry does not revolve around this forum nor yourself. My ministry revolves around the will of God.

And its effectiveness is greatly tempered by YOUR actions.


Your reputation has been wounded at your hand today James

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

No sir. A pedophile is not in the same league as a person with a degree from a diploma mill. We are not real sure if this is something deeper than we know and a few guys are being taken on these types of deals.

So, how "smart" does one have to be to be "taken" in a deal like this? I would think that a person "smart" enough to get a PhD would be "smart" enough to sniff out a fake, unless it was just too tempting.

[rgcraig]

JN Anderson - you should have listened to your friend and your wife.

[JN Anderson]

Originally Posted by pelathais

You participated and conspired to hide the identity of a caller (Boora) who went on to misrepresent himself as a member of the Washington DC Bar Association.

You then went on another forum and crowed about how a "lawyer" was going to bring down AFF. The whole affair involved misrepresentation and deceit.

Boora and the others made the fraudulent claims that fueled this thread. They publicly deceived the brethren with regard to their credentials. Exposing that fraud by linking to news stories and even police and court records is a service to Oneness community at large.

You, by your actions, have sought to obfuscate and even facilitate the deception. I trusted you, Bro. I spoke up for you all along the way. Please don't let me down.

I am not condoning or trying to hide anything these guys have done concerning the degrees. It's a shame if its true because I have to debate Trinitarians and what great ammo this will be when they learn of it. Esp if it is linked to me. I have always tried to go to good schools. I have spent thousands on my education at Liberty. I don't want to see others cheat the process with a free ride, trust me.

I just think the deal with the phone number is blown out of proportion. Maybe I am wrong.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

I am not condoning or trying to hide anything these guys have done concerning the degrees. It's a shame if its true because I have to debate Trinitarians and what great ammo this will be when they learn of it. Esp if it is linked to me. I have always tried to go to good schools. I have spent thousands on my education at Liberty. I don't want to see others cheat the process with a free ride, trust me.

I just think the deal with the phone number is blown out of proportion. Maybe I am wrong.

What was your purpose in giving out the phone number - maybe that can assist in deciding if it was a wrong motive.

And, you haven't explained why I'm a hypocrite.

[JN Anderson]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

So, how "smart" does one have to be to be "taken" in a deal like this? I would think that a person "smart" enough to get a PhD would be "smart" enough to sniff out a fake, unless it was just too tempting.

I don't know if anyone is taken. I am just saying that in this situation what if someone did think they were getting a legit degree and they weren't.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

No sir. A pedophile is not in the same league as a person with a degree from a diploma mill. We are not real sure if this is something deeper than we know and a few guys are being taken on these types of deals.

Yet one of the guys giving out the fake degrees was arrested and charged as a pedophile and for flee from prosecution in that case. His case is still open.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

I don't know if anyone is taken. I am just saying that in this situation what if someone did think they were getting a legit degree and they weren't.

Then they do as hopefully Wilson has done - stop using it and take it off his credentials. Fairly simple.