This is PATHETIC! Taking honor for something you did not earn. God... I thought you just handed out eternal life without sacrifice....
No... not like your degree!
Yes, please everyone make a sacrifice in order to earn eternal life...a Jesus did, why not you? And on good friday don't forget to flog yourselfs so God will forgive your many sins
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There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
The problem is, these licensing bodies are darned if they do and darned if they don't. The organization telling folks what to preach and how to run their autonomous churches has always been a HUGE complaint.
Who here does not know a minister or two that seems to have picked up some extreme or radical thoughts along the way? Discipline them all?
This is not a pastor .... a systemic problem lies in the accountability of the office of evangelist ... and personally, imo, whether what we see in the org are public/motivational speakers who often require flat fees or the apostolic model for the office of evangelist.
There is no accountability often for these men who tour the country and world seemingly without any governance ....
Of course ... even more so when the evangelist is a single man.
This is not a pastor .... a systemic problem lies in the accountability of the office of evangelist ... and personally, imo, whether what we see in the org are public/motivational speakers who often require flat fees or the apostolic model for the office of evangelist.
There is not accountability often for these men who tour the country and world seemingly without any governance ....
Of course ... even more so when the evangelist is a single man.
So there is no accountability? Do they not hold license with the organization?
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I think we should be a little more gracious in light of his last post
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Do you think these revelations will make a difference to the people follow LS and his Art Bell method of evangelism? What is the goal of this expose?
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Originally Posted by DAII
This is not a pastor .... a systemic problem lies in the accountability of the office of evangelist ... and personally, imo, whether what we see in the org are public/motivational speakers who often require flat fees or the apostolic model for the office of evangelist.
There is no accountability often for these men who tour the country and world seemingly without any governance ....
Of course ... even more so when the evangelist is a single man.
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Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
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I think we should be a little more gracious in light of his last post
True... but do you understand Baron was referencing the LS site?
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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