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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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I wonder just how many licensed UPCi minsters have degrees from "degree-mills"?
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Me too and how many of them went there because a friend told them how easy it was...gave them an MLM pitch
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07-07-2010, 01:17 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
Please note Theology (as opposed to Law, History, etc) is in a class by itself. There is no regional accreditation for a pure theology degree. The highest standard is Association of Theological Schools http://www.ats.edu/Pages/default.aspx. There are several other layers below that.
The point being a majority of “religious” degrees are not from regionally accredited programs. But just because a school is not accredited does NOT make them a diploma mill.
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07-07-2010, 01:36 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Affirmative: Hope's accredition is now through CCCU. I found them on the page.
Pel, I am positive that AST advertised as "fully accredited" prior to Hope. They used to print out publications with this information. They were very proud of it. I know they previously had an affiliation with Patten University in Oakland, so I'm thinking they did the same piggy-back deal with them.
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AST was accredited through another school before Hope. I can't remember the name of the school. My understanding (which is very limited) is that an AST degree is really a Hope degree. They must be acting as some sort of virtual satellite to Hope. I believe they are legitimate.
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07-07-2010, 01:40 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
Hello all
Upon receiving this surprising information regarding these profound allegations concerning SEU and ICW I have decided that it is needful to sever ties with such institutions. I received Honorary PhD recognition through SEU through an interested contact and had no idea of its controversies. Although I transferred credits and enrolled in ICW and after many years graduated through distance learning, due to the surprised surrounding controversies, I have decided to sever all connection.
It is right to operate under high ethical standards, and I greatly apologize for any damage this has caused. I want my ministry to be one of humility and meekness. Know that I am working diligently to update my websites and info.
Regards, appreciate your prayers
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07-07-2010, 01:43 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Hello all
Upon receiving this surprising information regarding these profound allegations concerning SEU and ICW I have decided that it is needful to sever ties with such institutions. I received Honorary PhD recognition through SEU through an interested contact and had no idea of its controversies. Although I transferred credits and enrolled in ICW and after many years graduated through distance learning, due to the surprised surrounding controversies, I have decided to sever all connection.
It is right to operate under high ethical standards, and I greatly apologize for any damage this has caused. I want my ministry to be one of humility and meekness. Know that I am working diligently to update my websites and info.
Regards, appreciate your prayers
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Will be praying for you. May God bless you.
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07-07-2010, 01:44 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Originally Posted by Knight
Hello all
Upon receiving this surprising information regarding these profound allegations concerning SEU and ICW I have decided that it is needful to sever ties with such institutions. I received Honorary PhD recognition through SEU through an interested contact and had no idea of its controversies. Although I transferred credits and enrolled in ICW and after many years graduated through distance learning, due to the surprised surrounding controversies, I have decided to sever all connection.
It is right to operate under high ethical standards, and I greatly apologize for any damage this has caused. I want my ministry to be one of humility and meekness. Know that I am working diligently to update my websites and info.
Regards, appreciate your prayers
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Extremely gracious and well spoken. And your ties with your English "lawyer" who was taking "legal action" ?
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07-07-2010, 01:47 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
Wonderful news Knight!
Thank you for taking the time to let us know.
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Mostly funny, yeah. But I don't think this is funny:
There were clots and the doctor's advice was, "We have to cut him open immediately to even try to save his life." Pastor Slack and those with him said, 'No, we'll pray." And they prayed... they took another set of pictures of my heart and the clots and blockages had disappeared!!! They did not cut me open. I hope nobody follows this pastor's example in an emergency situation. If you want to pray, pray in the waiting room and don't interfere. |
I know that those Aussies are an informal bunch - but I have a hard time picturing the surgeons standing there with their huge Crocodile Dundee bush knives in hand and getting ready to gut poor Lee with "Pastor Slack" in the operating theater as well, when the good pastor saves our suffering protagonist from the Fosters drinking slashers.
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07-07-2010, 01:49 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
Just curious has anyone checked Stoneking's website in the last five minutes to see if he is of the same opinion?
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07-07-2010, 01:50 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Originally Posted by Knight
Hello all
Upon receiving this surprising information regarding these profound allegations concerning SEU and ICW I have decided that it is needful to sever ties with such institutions. I received Honorary PhD recognition through SEU through an interested contact and had no idea of its controversies. Although I transferred credits and enrolled in ICW and after many years graduated through distance learning, due to the surprised surrounding controversies, I have decided to sever all connection.
It is right to operate under high ethical standards, and I greatly apologize for any damage this has caused. I want my ministry to be one of humility and meekness. Know that I am working diligently to update my websites and info.
Regards, appreciate your prayers
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Knight, You certainly have my prayers. While this post is astounding, your stature and integrity immediately benefit in the eyes of myself and others who do not know you outside of this recent thread. I am sure the same is true of your peers and those who otherwise know you.
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