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[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by DAII

Well, well ... look who has a satellite for the Institute:

STRAIT GATE INTERNATIONAL CHURCH
32894 Prescott
Romulus, Michigan 48174 USA
(734) 753-5750
Pastor Dr. Arthur C. Wilson
Dr. Kulwant Singh Boora
Directors

www.ofmbi.com/files/OFMBI_CATALOGUE-ICW2.doc

This is beginning to seem like a Multi Level Marketing scheme,,,which unfortunately UPCers like to do to make money, probably because they got a network of people who will believe anything you tell them.

[Maximilian]

According to the site, NW is on the Board of Trustees at Hope International University.

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

This is beginning to seem like a Multi Level Marketing scheme,,,which unfortunately UPCers like to do to make money, probably because they got a network of people who will believe anything you tell them.

Can you say "Avon?"

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by DAII

The Spokane college mill offered fake degrees from over 121 colleges and 66 legit colleges.

ICW seems to have a course load ... however one's credits are totaled cumulatively it appears which can bypass the undergrad work... and then just writing a paper is necessary for the ICW doctorate ... That's how I read it. Definitely another unaccredited theological institution.

Knight did claim the ICW doctorate was honorary for lifetime achievement which again legally and according to the ICW .... it is not a PhD but has another designation.

Honorary degrees are purely to gove honor to someone. Dignitaries like Bill Clinton and others often get them from prestigious universities....they don't go around boasting now that they have a Doctorate. It's purely for honorific purposes not academic

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Honorary degrees are purely to gove honor to someone. Dignitaries like Bill Clinton and others often get them from prestigious universities....they don't go around boasting now that they have a Doctorate. It's purely for honorific purposes not academic

[Maximilian]

No one likes to have a knock-off brand

[Cindy]

So is the consensus that LS, did or did not know that his "degree" was phony? Of course he would know if he ever attended an actual school somewhere, either in England or the U. S. And is it legal for someone to claim to have a degree from somewhere that they don't have? Which would be fraud I guess. I am a little confused on just how he committed fraud if he didn't know the thing was fake, or did not use the title Dr. or PhD.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Honorary degrees are purely to gove honor to someone. Dignitaries like Bill Clinton and others often get them from prestigious universities....they don't go around boasting now that they have a Doctorate. It's purely for honorific purposes not academic

As does Bill Cosby. And he is a strong advocate for education.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

Someone needs to get these guys some jobs. I will let other people speak for themselves but what is your point in the negative direction you have taken your lives? Is this the type of thing that you want to define you? I love Oneness Pentecostalism with all her problems and failures. These exist in every attempt to organize human beings.

I think though it is very important we decide which direction we are taking. Are you for Oneness Pentecostalism or are you against it? Daniel Alicea? John? Pel? I would like to know since both of you have only defined your theological views around fringe issues in OP (magic hair, diploma mills). I understand criticism but are you trying to really help it or tear it down. I think it would be nice if you at least state your motivations here.

The criticisms here have not been aimed at Oneness Pentecostalism but a few individuals. Honestly I find this embarrassing to the Oneness movement and it makes it hard to be taken seriously on any academic or intellectual level to have teachings such as HMH and have individuals sporting PH.ds that are bogus or they did not earn.

Read the evidence...this is looking more and more like a MLM scheme than it is a legit place of Higher Learning. The UPCI needs to do something about this. They should make a by law stipulating that ministers can only claim PH.ds that are legit and they need to investigate what looks like has become a MLM for someone in the UPC where they get a friend to join then start a branch and call themselves professors

[Maximilian]

Usually, when honorary doctorates are conferred on candidates, it is called a "Doctor of Divinity." The more prestigious the school, the higher the honor.