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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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That's a pretty accurate broad brush I'd say. At least among the older guard.
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Why do you think this is? I have my theory and it concerns science classes that young Christian minds full of mush will be forced to "endure" and am pretty sure many have gone off to college with every book written by Morris and Ham in their suitcases. Of course I say this sarcastically since most of these science classes are long overdue......
It can be a scary thing when you are no longer in control of what your yutes learn.
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Science could be a part of it, but I think it goes far beyond that.... somehow the "imminent return of Christ" has been interpreted to mean to "future matters little" aside from the eternal investment of church, prayer, and saving your neighbor's soul.
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Science could be a part of it, but I think it goes far beyond that.... somehow the "imminent return of Christ" has been interpreted to mean to "future matters little" aside from the eternal investment of church, prayer, and saving your neighbor's soul.
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Eschatological fervor definitely played a part in the disregarding of learning in early Pentecostalism.
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Interesting, but I think it's indeed a stretch to say those teaching dress standards and behavior standards are somehow more prone to touting unearned degrees. Conservative "holiness" groups aside, it appears these degree mills have flourished in society at large.
I actually believe a case could be made, that a large portion of the so-called "Holiness" groups view degrees and education in it's entirety with skepticism.
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I am certainly not making a blanket statement. I would agree with you- but I think that when we learn the "shortcuts" to God we take them in other areas of life as well.
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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I don't know, Hoovie. (Or maybe I do?) 
Wouldn't you agree that narcissism comes into play when you truly believe you deserve a degree you haven't earned? I would assume those purchasing degrees either feel they don't have the ability to earn a degree and thus must bypass that step, OR they feel they deserve one even though they haven't done the work. Beyond that, being competitive with other denominations or ministers and proving we are just as educated as *they* are could be another motive.
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I am certainly not making a blanket statement. I would agree with you- but I think that when we learn the "shortcuts" to God we take them in other areas of life as well.
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But sadly, there are no shortcuts. There's only one road of discipleship and there's no getting around the cross.
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But sadly, there are no shortcuts. There's only one road of discipleship and there's no getting around the cross.
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I know that now
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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I am certainly not making a blanket statement. I would agree with you- but I think that when we learn the "shortcuts" to God we take them in other areas of life as well.
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A subject worthy of exploration. I would want to investigate it from the viewpoint of replacing (shortcutting) lifelong (or at least long-term) discipleship with one or two ecstatic experiences. There is really no shortcut to many things in life.
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Just for the sake of making it clear, I have not been scared off I just don't have the time today. And James A. if you and your friends persist in your criminal misrepresentation and threats, I will follow up on it.
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Just making sure this has been seen!
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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I don't know, Hoovie. (Or maybe I do?)
Wouldn't you agree that narcissism comes into play when you truly believe you deserve a degree you haven't earned? I would assume those purchasing degrees either feel they don't have the ability to earn a degree and thus must bypass that step, OR they feel they deserve one even though they haven't done the work. Beyond that, being competitive with other denominations or ministers and proving we are just as educated as *they* are could be another motive. |
I just want to believe that for most it's not narcissism so much as their gullibility. Those peddling these "degrees" likely do a slick sell job - touting the importance of the candidate's "life experience" and any published works they might have.
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