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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Maybe Knight or Dr Stoneking would be interesting in a public discussion on the hair doctrine LS has been teaching around the nation? Let's put those degrees to good use
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Right, we do have a debate forum, maybe one of the Doctors would debate someone concerning the requirement of uncut hair. 
Surely they can give us dumb folk an education.
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Looks like I missed the fun.
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Boy, me too! I've been thinking some of the threads were sure boring. Don't know how I missed this one. Am trying to catch up. Think I'm at about 34 - 35 post.
Wow!
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Sorry, there's no animations to adequately illustrate what assuming does.
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You might be a good example of this animation? Reckon? Mr. Maximilian just wants everyone to overlook and sweep under the rug and don't be questioning these good men!
Paul said in essence, to follow him as he followed Christ. But, according to you we can't check on these men and see if they are following Christ and if we find them doing otherwise we can't question them! Just be quiet! Don't muddy the water.
If these men want to falsify their education records they ought to get into politics instead of the ministry.
Oh, of course, they can put politicians out of office for falsifying their records but we can't question the preacher about it!
Give me a break!
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LIFE: Some days you're the dog and some days you're the hydrant!
I have ... Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia! The fear of long words.
"Prediction is very hard, especially about the future." - Yogi Berra
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave in reflection." - Thomas Paine
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07-05-2010, 10:25 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
Here is an interesting article today in light of this thread.
"They would print the diplomas and the so-called coursework they had people doing," says the detective, who confiscated fake diplomas from the downtown church building. "But then when they were done, basically all they had was a worthless piece of paper."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38096123/ns/us_news-faith/
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Max,then why are you so defensive about it?
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Defensive?
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If he "won't hear you" - then you are to tell it to the church.
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And which of you have went to him in private, or with other brothers first? 
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Have I told you all lately that I love you?
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07-06-2010, 12:55 AM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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No Rod Stewart, but thanks for the thought 
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
The following is from the 2010 Catalogue of One Flesh Ministries Bible Institute
Source: www.ofmbi.com/files/OFMBI_CATALOGUE-ICW2.doc
It is affiliated and a satellite of the INSTITUTE FOR CHRISTIAN WORKS BIBLE COLLEGE & SEMINARY
founded by Dr. P. Bradley Carey, (alleged child rapist)
Dr. Arthur C. Wilson, Pastor of the International Church of Wayne (UPCI), is listed once again as a staff member at this educational institution, as follows:
Pastor ARTHUR C. WILSON
United Pentecostal Church
B.Min., M.Min., D.Min.
Professor of Ministry
The bachelor's and master's being degrees Arthur has not earned at any other school before attaining his doctorate from this same institution.
This, subsequently, is also the same school in which Lee Stoneking, Wilson's "spiritual father", claims to have a doctorate from ....
Admittedly, by Mr. Wilson on this thread, these degrees, along with the degrees from SEU, have been conferred on a honorary basis for lifetime achievement and accumulation of credits throughout a sporadic and itinerant academic career.
According to the INSTITUTE FOR CHRISTIAN WORKS BIBLE COLLEGE & SEMINARY endorsed literature .... a doctoral degree is described as follows:
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DOCTOR OF CHRISTIAN PHILOSOPHY AND
DOCTOR OF RELIGIOUS PHILOSOPHY DEGREE PROGRAMS
APOLOGETICS, BIBLICAL STUDIES, CHRISTIAN COUNSELING, CHRISTIAN EDUCATION, CHURCH ADMINISTRATION, MINISTRY, PASTORAL COUNSELING, RELIGION, RELIGIOUS LITERATURE, SACRED MUSIC, THEOLOGY
The required amount of credits for a Doctor of Christian Philosophy and the Doctor of Religious Philosophy degree is 115 credits. All credits earned above the Master’s degree level must be in the degree major. All credits are inclusive of credits from the Master’s degree. All Doctor of Christian Philosophy and Doctor of Religious Philosophy degree candidates are required to do a Doctoral Dissertation. All those majoring in Christian/Pastoral Counseling must do a 200 hour Counseling Practicum worth 20 credits of those required for this degree.
South Carolina State law prohibits religious schools from using what they term as “secular nomenclature.” Hence, our Doctor of Christian Philosophy degree has the nomenclature of D.C.Phil., instead of Ph.D. and our Doctor of Religious Philosophy degree has the nomenclature of D.R.Phil., instead of Ph.D. Other than the initials and this being a religious degree, there is no real difference.
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If I am reading the South Carolina school's own description correctly .... their degree by state law does not, and can not read, PhD but rather D.R.Phil.
Lee Stoneking's site has not posted the designation PhD next the doctorate from the Institute ...
however ... Doctor Wilson claims a PhD from the the Institute at his church site and personal ministry site, ( http://www.theinternationalchurch.or...staffID=14006&, http://www.artwilson.com/)
albeit, Wilson now claims that his PhDs are honorary in this thread ....
.... yet NO SUCH DESIGNATION OF A PHD EVEN EXISTS AT THIS SCHOOL and IS ILLEGAL NOMENCLATURE in the state in which the school is based in.
Despite this, Dr. Wilson believes he should be able to claim and publicize a PhD from the school where he is an adjunct professor in and in charge of "proctoring and invigilation".
Also be sure to read Dr. Bradley's take on the "lie of accreditation" in this catalog.
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Originally Posted by DAII
The following is from the 2010 Catalogue of One Flesh Ministries Bible Institute
Source: www.ofmbi.com/files/OFMBI_CATALOGUE-ICW2.doc
It is affiliated and a satellite of the INSTITUTE FOR CHRISTIAN WORKS BIBLE COLLEGE & SEMINARY
founded by Dr. P. Bradley Carey, (alleged child rapist)
Dr. Arthur C. Wilson, Pastor of the International Church of Wayne (UPCI), is listed once again as a staff member at this educational institution, as follows:
Pastor ARTHUR C. WILSON
United Pentecostal Church
B.Min., M.Min., D.Min.
Professor of Ministry
The bachelor's and master's being degrees Arthur has not earned at any other school before attaining his doctorate from this same institution.
This, subsequently, is also the same school in which Lee Stoneking, Wilson's "spiritual father", claims to have a doctorate from ....
Admittedly, by Mr. Wilson on this thread, these degrees, along with the degrees from SEU, have been conferred on a honorary basis for lifetime achievement and accumulation of credits throughout a sporadic and itinerant academic career.
According to the INSTITUTE FOR CHRISTIAN WORKS BIBLE COLLEGE & SEMINARY endorsed literature .... a doctoral degree is described as follows:
If I am reading the South Carolina school's own description correctly .... their degree by state law does not, and can not read, PhD but rather D.R.Phil.
Lee Stoneking's site has not posted the designation PhD next the doctorate from the Institute ...
however ... Doctor Wilson claims a PhD from the the Institute at his church site and personal ministry site, ( http://www.theinternationalchurch.or...staffID=14006&, http://www.artwilson.com/)
albeit, Wilson now claims that his PhDs are honorary in this thread ....
.... yet NO SUCH DESIGNATION OF A PHD EVEN EXISTS AT THIS SCHOOL and IS ILLEGAL NOMENCLATURE in the state in which the school is based in.
Despite this, Dr. Wilson believes he should be able to claim and publicize a PhD from the school where he is an adjunct professor in and in charge of "proctoring and invigilation".
Also be sure to read Dr. Bradley's take on the "lie of accreditation" in this catalog. |
This is like a soap opera, weird, and it keeps getting weirder.
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