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07-04-2010, 11:14 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
Would be interesting to interview the former proprietors or neighbors on their take of SEU.
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07-04-2010, 11:18 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
Why is it so important to be called Dr or Professor for some? I know people that are going to real schools, year by year or even longer since they also have to work full time at real accredited schools. I don't give a hoot if an evangelist or pastor does not have a Phd.
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07-04-2010, 11:26 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Why is it so important to be called Dr or Professor for some? I know people that are going to real schools, year by year or even longer since they also have to work full time at real accredited schools. I don't give a hoot if an evangelist or pastor does not have a Phd.
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You know, really Prax, this is the bottom line of all this, isn't it? Would LS get one single more speaking engagement if he has a phd listed, or one less if he didn't? I don't think so. Before all this hooey, I didn't know he claimed any education besides ABI. Doesn't this point to it all being about ego? Seems so to me.
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07-04-2010, 11:35 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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UHHH Dan...
John C. Stacey is listed as being associated with the London School of Economics and Political Science, Houghton Street, London WC2A 2AE, UK
Now I am not sure what this school is but...the address listed on Lee's website is neither the address of LSEPS nor SEU.
SEU lists their address as
UK Administrative Office:
Southern Eastern (SEU)
PO Box 108 - Manchester
M11 0AQ
ENGLAND
Let the misinformation continue. The cover up is always worse than the crime. but hey at least it is signed...what the heck does that mean?
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07-04-2010, 11:40 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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Number 9 Unity Street is listed as being a drinking establishment known as "The Tube" on Google Earth. The street view shows it to be a restaurant "formerly Harvey's" that is now on the market. The first floor windows of Number 9 Unity Street are boarded up and the second floor is deserted.
The top two floors of the building are being let out as "duplexes." It appears that Southern Eastern University of Bristol is no more; at least not at it's listed location.
Since this "institution" is forbidden to hand out diplomas in the U.K. it is probably able to move about there without too much disruption to the "education" thing that they do.
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WOW.
See my wife thought about signing up for AFF, but I told her
" You cannot say ANYTHING on AFF without someone questioning it. If you sign up, you'd better be ready for a challenge!"
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07-04-2010, 11:45 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
anyone want to hire us as investigators?
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07-04-2010, 11:46 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
SEU makes Dr. John Bear's book of degree mills.
List of Chapter 25 Diploma Mills (Dr. Bear's book 12th edition) from the UK. One of these is apparently Lee Stoneking's and Art Wilson's "alma mater".
Academy College of Holy Studies
Academy of the Science of Man
Albany Educational Services
Avatar Episcopal University
Avatar International University
Brantridge Forest School
British College of Soma-Therapy
British Collegiate Institute
Broadhurst University
California Institute of Higher Learning
Central School of Religion
City Medical Correspondence College
College of Applied Science London
College of Divine Metaphysics
College of Spiritual Sciences
Collegium Technologicum Sussexensis Britannia
Creative University of Southeast London
Cromwell University
Ecclesiastical University of Sheffield
Episcopal University of London
European College of Science and Man
Faraday College
Gordon Arlen College
Harley University
Inter-State College
International Protestant Birkbest College
London College of Physiology
London College of Theology
London Educational College
London Institute for Applied Research
London School for Social Research
London Tottenham International Christian University
Lyne College
Metropolitan Collegiate
Ministerial Training College
Morton-Colwyn University
National Ecclesiastical University
National University of Sheffield
Nebraska College of Physical Medicine
Newcastle University
Northwest London University
Obura University
Oxford College of Applied Science
Oxford Institute for Applied Research
Saint John Chrysostom College
School of Applied Sciences
School of Psychology and Psychotherapy
Shield College
South Eastern Extension College
Southern Eastern University
Sussex College of Technology
Trinity Collegiate Institute
United Free University of England
Universal Ecclesiastical University
Universitas Iltiensis
Universitates Sheffieldensis
University in London
University of Coventry
University of England
University of England at Oxford
University of Sheffield
University of Sulgrave
University of the Old Catholic Church
University of the Science of Man
University of Winchester
West London College of Technology
Western Orthodox University
Whitby Hall College
Wordsworth Memorial University
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07-04-2010, 11:54 PM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
Apparently Dr. Bear is one of the foremost experts on degree mills and distance learning
" He is the author of Bears' Guide to Earning Degrees by Distance Learning, whose 16th edition was published in 2006." - Wiki
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07-05-2010, 12:15 AM
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
what about the other university?
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Re: SEU (Southern Eastern University) updates
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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