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Old 05-25-2010, 04:32 PM
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I've been divorced for 12 years and yes christians can be bad, but I don't think love and attraction are enough to keep a man or woman faithful nowadays. Unless the couple are mature, up in years and looking to settle down. I think a christian world view is helpful in a relationship.
I guess I have to disagree. There is a such thing as personal ethics. People are constantly telling me that I had it wrong, that I followed the rules for the wrong reasons, that instead of doing it out of fear, I should have been doing it out of love. And yet you are advocating fear of consequences as the only control over one's behavior.
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The nice thing about Christians is, no matter what they have done or will do, God will forgive them! Fear of hell? Not even a factor!
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The nice thing about Christians is, no matter what they have done or will do, God will forgive them! Fear of hell? Not even a factor!
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I guess I have to disagree. There is a such thing as personal ethics. People are constantly telling me that I had it wrong, that I followed the rules for the wrong reasons, that instead of doing it out of fear, I should have been doing it out of love. And yet you are advocating fear of consequences as the only control over one's behavior.
I don't think it's an either/or situation. A person's relationship with God and with a mate can contain both love and fear. The bible says, "the beginning of wisdom is the fear of God". Christ taught us to fear the one who can destroy both the body and soul in hell. I don't think fear should be the only reason to stay in a relationship, but I think both love and fear are healthy. A few curves won't hurt.
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I don't think it's an either/or situation. A person's relationship with God and with a mate can contain both love and fear. The bible says, "the beginning of wisdom is the fear of God". Christ taught us to fear the one who can destroy both the body and soul in hell. I don't think fear should be the only reason to stay in a relationship, but I think both love and fear are healthy. A few curves won't hurt.
Fear can be an important and healthy feature of the human psyche if and when it is needed! It can trigger the fight-or-flight response, for example. It is part of our self-preservation instinct. And if a relationship breaks down to the point that fear needs to kick in and do its job, such as when one party becomes abusive or threatens the other's well-being and safety, that relationship is not healthy.

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Fear can be an important and healthy feature of the human psyche if and when it is needed! It can trigger the fight-or-flight response, for example. It is part of our self-preservation instinct. And if a relationship breaks down to the point that fear needs to kick in and do its job, such as when one party becomes abusive or threatens the other's well-being and safety, that relationship is not healthy.

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I was referring to a fear of God and of a biblical worldview where men are commanded to love their wives etc. A "biblical" relationship with fear of God and love for their spouse is a healthy one imo. I was not referring to fear of a spouse in an abusive relationship.
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I was referring to a fear of God and of a biblical worldview where men are commanded to love their wives etc. A "biblical" relationship with fear of God and love for their spouse is a healthy one imo. I was not referring to fear of a spouse in an abusive relationship.
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1Cr 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
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I don't think it's an either/or situation. A person's relationship with God and with a mate can contain both love and fear. The bible says, "the beginning of wisdom is the fear of God". Christ taught us to fear the one who can destroy both the body and soul in hell. I don't think fear should be the only reason to stay in a relationship, but I think both love and fear are healthy. A few curves won't hurt.
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I was referring to a fear of God and of a biblical worldview where men are commanded to love their wives etc. A "biblical" relationship with fear of God and love for their spouse is a healthy one imo. I was not referring to fear of a spouse in an abusive relationship.
But again, why would anyone woman want to be with a man who only loves her because God demands it? Or a man who is only faithful because of fear of consequences?

I think all women want to be loved for themselves.
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But again, why would anyone woman want to be with a man who only loves her because God demands it? Or a man who is only faithful because of fear of consequences?

I think all women want to be loved for themselves.
Well, God commands us to love Him, too. Just sayin'.
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