Can Women Pastor ? - Page 112

rdp · #**1111** 01-19-2010, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouvere

I am sure the Brother will be so satisfied if he convinces our dear beloved Missionary that she is not supposed to have gone to Brazil led by Jesus to preach the Gospel and start all those truth teaching churches. What a sad day indeed.

Ho-Hum, & what does this have to do w/ the very clear language of I Tim. 2:11-15 & I Cor. 14:34?????? Spare me your philosphy in these verses...I've already seen it.

Sister Alvear · #**1112** 01-19-2010, 05:17 PM

Trouvere...he did not call...neither can he fire me...I am sorry he cannot see the Bible in the true light of what it is saying...have no fear I only fear for those he moght have influnce over...I know WHO CALLED...and that makes a world of difference...He is wasting his time trying to convince me Jesus did not call me or that Paul was against women ministers...lol...

Sister Alvear · #**1113** 01-19-2010, 05:17 PM

By the way we arrived last night here in the states....

simplyme · #**1114** 01-19-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rdp

Geeee, imagine a woman arguing in favor of women preachers!?

I've repeatedly said that I highly honor Sis. Alvear for her sacrifices [besides, she began interacting w/ me], & sorry, I HAVE sacrificed for the church in home missions. We've gone w/out for the sake of the work of Christ, so ya' might wanna' do more homework before you start throwing eggs!

Besides, Mormons also sacrifice, are they also now saved based upon their sacrifices????? Your response about the homosexual is ridiculous & flies in the face of clear Scripture...just as does women preachers in the church ]I Tim. 2:11-15, I Cor. 14:34]. If we don't believe the Bible, then why are we even on here?

watch out now, brother, you might just start making sense.

..and you know how people HATE that!

rdp · #**1115** 01-19-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Trouvere...he did not call...neither can he fire me...I am sorry he cannot see the Bible in the true light of what it is saying...have no fear I only fear for those he moght have influnce over...I know WHO CALLED...and that makes a world of difference...He is wasting his time trying to convince me Jesus did not call me or that Paul was against women ministers...lol...

Ughhh, Paul is the very one who said, "I DO NOT ALLOW A WOMAN TO TEACH, OR TO EXCERCISE AUTHORITY OVER A MAN, SHE IS TO REMAIN QUIET.....THESE THINGS I WRITE TO YOU SO THAT YOU MAY KNOW HOW TO BEHAVE YOURSELF IN THE HOUSEHOLD OF GOD, WHICH IS THE CHURCH." I mean how much plainer could he possibly have been to church members??????????????? Sheesh!

Believe what you will, I'm sticking w/ the Bible....the very one you "preach" out of! "LOL" indeed!

rdp · #**1116** 01-19-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by simplyme

watch out now, brother, you might just start making sense.

..and you know how people HATE that!

I know it Sister. It's just astounding to me how in the world they can't understand the phrase, "I do not allow....."????

I mean, Helloooooooooooooooooooooo, is anyone at home?????

Honestly, I think I'll take your earlier advice & quit wasting my time here. They have nothing to offer that I've not heard before.

Sad, very sad.....................& an embarrassment to Pentecostal "Theology" I might add!

rdp · #**1117** 01-19-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Trouvere...he did not call...neither can he fire me...I am sorry he cannot see the Bible in the true light of what it is saying...have no fear I only fear for those he moght have influnce over...I know WHO CALLED...and that makes a world of difference...He is wasting his time trying to convince me Jesus did not call me or that Paul was against women ministers...lol...

Oh, & by the way, YES, I've helped to lead some out of their "women preachers in the church" ideas & will continue to lovingly do so, since these precious souls have to stand before the same God who inspired I Tim. 2 & I Cor. 14:34 someday.

Unfortunately, one went back into the false doctrine [& caused much embarrassment to her family]...but, trust me, she's been trouble for at least 4 pastors that I personally know of. Her problem is that she has a problem staying in her place & loves the position of authority, which is NOT a woman's place in the NT church economy.

Sister Alvear · #**1118** 01-19-2010, 09:39 PM

well, that works both ways...lots of men have brought shame to the cause of Christ...I think this is endless because I DO NOT believe Paul meant a woman cannot preach for he had women preachers with him...
However we will see on judgement day for here on earth we will just have to agree to disagree...

rdp · #**1119** 01-20-2010, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

well, that works both ways...lots of men have brought shame to the cause of Christ...I think this is endless because I DO NOT believe Paul meant a woman cannot preach for he had women preachers with him...
However we will see on judgement day for here on earth we will just have to agree to disagree...

Where does the literal text state that Paul had "women preachers" w/ him:____________? This was the same Paul who strictly forbade women from positions of authority in the church [I Tim. 2:11-15, I Cor. 14:34, etc.]. As usual, women preacher advocated read something into the text NEVER stated by the same.

I personally can't see what there's to "agree to disagree" about....Scripture could not be plainer....but whatever you say.

Blessings anyway...................
Blessings.................

Trouvere · #**1120** 01-20-2010, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rdp

Ho-Hum, & what does this have to do w/ the very clear language of I Tim. 2:11-15 & I Cor. 14:34?????? Spare me your philosphy in these verses...I've already seen it.

Ho-Hum someone else. You are not a nice individual and are very one sided in opinion. I hope you aren't any ones pastor. Learn to spell.