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Old 01-05-2010, 01:42 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?

the cause of Christ should be shared with the same passion by both men and women alike
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The danger of founding a doctrine on a single text, without comparing it with hundreds of other texts that speak of the same theme, cannot be emphasized enough in the light of eternity...
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Scripture itself compels us to share the greatest love we know—the life of Jesus...and we must share it no matter what the cost to us be...
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Both the Hebrew (Nebrah), and Greek (Proph) used for prophetess means (female preacher). (See Young's Concordance, Pg. 780.)

The word "Prophet" means a public expounder.

The word "Prophesy" means to speak forth, or flow forth. The Bible says in 1 Cor. 14:3, "But he that prophesieth speaketh unto MEN to edification, and exhortation and comfort."

The dictionary says, prophesy is "to speak under divine inspiration...to preach."

Therefore we learn from the original translation, from the Bible interpretation, and from the dictionary, that to prophesy means more than to tell the future, but it is to speak publicly about the past, present, or future. It is to preach under the anointing of the Holy Spirit.
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now according to the reasoning of some not even Paul could reach because he was not married...
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Re: I read David Norris's article....poor scholars

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I went ahead and listed the scriptures for you, in case you were in doubt. Bible translations don't tend to vary much on names of people.
So are you denying what I've stated regarding the KJV & NKJV concerning Aquilla & Prisca?
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Well I couldn't handle each "argument" above because the computer wouldn't let me quote it all...or at least I'm plumb ignorant of how to do so!

But, from what I can remember, you really need to study the meaning of "exegesis" a little more, since "culture & history" do not have one thing to do w/ the immediate text via word definition, syntax, etc....."I thought you would know that!" More appealls outside of the literal text.

And I'm well aware of Gordon Fee & Bart Ehrman's angle of I Cor. 14:34....& it's entirely speculative at the end of the day! Daniel Wallace addresses these issues in Strobel's, "The Case for the Real Christ." In sum, EVERY [over 5,000] Greek manuscript that we have possess the verse! Hmmmmmmmmm???? Think I'll stick w/ the literal texts & let you have Gordon Fee! The verse remains applicable & has nothing to do w/ "husbands & wives"....& no translation adopts such a rendering of vs. 34...try again!

Can't remember what else you said, but if you would requote it, I'd be more than happy to deal w/ these issues as time allows. At any rate, still waiting on your biblical example of a NT "woman expositor/preacher":_____________?

If you can't fill in the blank, then what evidence do we have? N-O-N-E!
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Old 01-05-2010, 02:27 PM
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The Council of Nicea in 325 made it clear that women were no longer to be ordained along with the clergy but were to remain amongst the laity. Many church councils followed..The councilf Orange..each dealing at some time with women...sad church councils removed godly women...
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The Missionary's Prayer

Only one life I have to live for thee
Please, make me what I ought to be,
Oh God of shining light
Help me penetrate heathen night.

I will desire no rest
Until I offer you my best,
My youth, my talents, I gladly give
So that others in heaven may live.

Oh thou the Galilean King
Your message I will gladly bring,
So that those who have waited so long
At last they can sing the hallelujah song.

I will gladly lay my life down
So that others may wear a crown
I will tell them of your grace
So that together we may see your face.

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Judgment Day

Today is judgment day for me
I never knew it would have to be
We stand more than a million souls
That has never heard of thee.

With trembling hands and weeping voices
We look to one upon a throne
Why is it we have never known?
And in our land the gospel seed never sown?

Oh church, how can we sit on sitting sands?
Gathering riches and wealth here below
While away off in heathen lands
A debt to them we so plainly owe.

How can we be so light hearted and gay
While billions still do not know the way
It's enough to make angels weep
Because in heathen creeds they sink so deep

So arise and listen to the voices from afar
Tell them we are coming, yes we are
All other things we count as dross
We will gladly bear the missionaries cross.
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