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Old 12-05-2009, 07:57 PM
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Re: Destroyed by Pure Knowledge?

Ah good thought I would like to express my veiw on the subject. First throw religion out the door it has gotten us nowhere. Religion is the atempt to know God by knowledge and understanding and this does not work. We know God by relationship by faith in Christ and then his word opens up to us through personal study.
2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

The word of God is a personal guide book to the individual not given to pastors to interperit and then give to the layity.
Php 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

And for that matter we don't have to have to bible to have a personal relationship with God, but it is benificial. Christian had relationship with God for many years without access to the word. I think we have a tendancy to forget this in this world where the bible is the number one best seller, and published in every language.

To further make my point we don't need have all knowledge in everything this is where we begin to have problems. People do in fact feel they need to know all things good and evil. This is contrary to the plan of God he wants us to gain knowledge of good only.

Rom 16:19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.

Php 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

So yes we can be destroyed by the wrong knowledge, but not pure knowledge.
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Re: Destroyed by Pure Knowledge?

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He arose in a Garden, too,m and was even mistaken for the Gardener. (hint hint).
I used this in my message this morning. Amazing; God put man in a Garden as the perfect place for him in the beggining. Man was expelled from the Garden because of sin. Jesus went to the Garden often with his disciples, then praying there before being led away to be crucified. Then was buried and rose again in a Garden, and was mistaken for a Gardener.

I find it interesting Jesus didn't go to the Temple to pray in his deepest hour of distress.

Calvary represents Redemption (restoring God and Man's relationship), and the drawing back to this simple place is beyond evident.

Something to think about.
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Ah good thought I would like to express my veiw on the subject. First throw religion out the door it has gotten us nowhere. Religion is the atempt to know God by knowledge and understanding and this does not work. We know God by relationship by faith in Christ and then his word opens up to us through personal study.
2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

The word of God is a personal guide book to the individual not given to pastors to interperit and then give to the layity.
Php 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

And for that matter we don't have to have to bible to have a personal relationship with God, but it is benificial. Christian had relationship with God for many years without access to the word. I think we have a tendancy to forget this in this world where the bible is the number one best seller, and published in every language.

To further make my point we don't need have all knowledge in everything this is where we begin to have problems. People do in fact feel they need to know all things good and evil. This is contrary to the plan of God he wants us to gain knowledge of good only.

Rom 16:19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.

Php 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

So yes we can be destroyed by the wrong knowledge, but not pure knowledge.
Just curious what you think about this. Was Einsteins science on splitting Atoms wrong knowledge?

I stated earlier, pure knowledge is ALL knowledge, good and bad. And, knowing the bad can help us stay in the good.

IMO, knowledge is not pure unless it contains ALL knowledge. If we don't know the evil, we can't define what is good. The problem lies in the fact, we are impure, and to know ALL would destroy us. We simply can't bear this deapth of knowing.

We would fall into the abyss of the one thing humans can't handle; POWER.

Innocence (knowing enough or limited understanding) has its blessings, especially for human beings who are born in sin.

I don't know if you read my earlier comments on Solomon. The wisest man on Earth, and yet, his ending is more than sad.

Thanks for the input.
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:03 PM
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Re: Destroyed by Pure Knowledge?

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Just curious what you think about this. Was Einsteins science on splitting Atoms wrong knowledge?

I stated earlier, pure knowledge is ALL knowledge, good and bad. And, knowing the bad can help us stay in the good.

IMO, knowledge is not pure unless it contains ALL knowledge. If we don't know the evil, we can't define what is good. The problem lies in the fact, we are impure, and to know ALL would destroy us. We simply can't bear this deapth of knowing.

We would fall into the abyss of the one thing humans can't handle; POWER.

Innocence (knowing enough or limited understanding) has its blessings, especially for human beings who are born in sin.

I don't know if you read my earlier comments on Solomon. The wisest man on Earth, and yet, his ending is more than sad.

Thanks for the input.
In everything man takes good and turns it into evil, this we can not do much about Einsteins discouvery of spiting the atom was not so much knowlege as discovery which then became knowlege. this was good. the discovery of electricity this was good. it is when man takes good and turns it into negative that it becomes bad. I still stand by the word it is better to be simple unto evil. It is not neccesary to know or understand evil to live a good life. sometime the less we know the better.
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