Sorry, but I'm not any glory to you because I'm a woman and you are a man. Is your wife the glory of every man you know? Is that Biblical? If that's what you believe, you got a lot more of the Bible to read in reference to husbands and wives.
And you have yet to show me where 'preaching' is considered such only when done in a gender mixed congregation. I've been waiting for a couple months now. Show me any definition that states 'to a gender mixed congregation' somewhere in it. I'd rather have scripture, but I'll be waiting even longer for that.
There's no mention of "husband" & "wife" in any single translation that I know of in I Cor. 11 [save yourself the embarrassment of appealling to the Greek words here]. Besides, there's no definite article preceding the verse that explicitly says, "...but the woman is the glory of man". You apparently deny this text [go figure].
I have given you enough Scripture to choke a mule, yet you just ignore them! What does I Tim. 2:11-15 mean to you:____________? What about I Cor. 14:34:___________? Were these church settings, where men & women were? Of course they were. Get honest w/ the text!
Show me where Moses 'took text and preached from it' every time he preached to the people.
Show me where Noah 'took text and preached from it' when he was preaching to the people about the coming flood.
Show me any lexicon or definition that has somewhere in it that preaching is 'taking text and preaching from it'.
I've given you numerous examples where the Bible demonstrates M-E-N taking a text & "preaching" from it [Peter on Pentecost referenced Joel at the beginning of his sermon, Phillip to the eunuch, Josiah, Neh., etc. ad nauseum]. Now, I'll grant you the same liberty, pls' show where a woman EVER once did so:________________?
Oh, ever heard of Deuteronomy? This was Moses rehearsing from his previous books...if you'd do a little more homework.
But, since we're now in the church economy, I'll be waiting on your NT church example of a woman "preaching" to a church....when Paul explicitly forbid it! Hmmmmmmmm.
Below is a list of everything God took away from them. It includes mirrors, scarves, perfume, linen garments, cloaks, veils and handbags. God was taking away the good things of life and replacing it with sadness, mourning, and some very bad times. Because they were haughty and had turned away from God.
16The LORD said Because the daughters of Zion are haughty
and walk with outstretched necks,
glancing wantonly with their eyes,
mincing along as they go,
tinkling with their feet,
17therefore the Lord will strike with a scab
the heads of(Z) the daughters of Zion,
and the LORD will lay bare their secret parts.
18In that day the Lord will take away the finery of the anklets, the headbands, and the crescents; 19the pendants, the bracelets, and the scarves; 20the headdresses, the armlets, the sashes, the perfume boxes, and the amulets; 21the signet rings and nose rings; 22the festal robes, the mantles, the cloaks, and the handbags; 23the mirrors, the linen garments, the turbans, and the veils.
24Instead of perfume there will be rottenness;
and instead of a belt, a rope;
and instead of well-set hair, baldness;
and instead of a rich robe, a skirt of sackcloth;
and branding instead of beauty.
25Your men shall fall by the sword
and your mighty men in battle.
26And her gates shall lament and mourn;
empty, she shall sit on the ground.
*GASP* No purses????
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There's no mention of "husband" & "wife" in any single translation that I know of in I Cor. 11 [save yourself the embarrassment of appealling to the Greek words here]. Besides, there's no definite article preceding the verse that explicitly says, "...but the woman is the glory of man". You apparently deny this text [go figure].
I have given you enough Scripture to choke a mule, yet you just ignore them! What does I Tim. 2:11-15 mean to you:____________? What about I Cor. 14:34:___________? Were these church settings, where men & women were? Of course they were. Get honest w/ the text!
1 Corinthians is discussing headship. Sorry, but you being a man doesn't make you head over me. Not in any way.
I believe it's verse 8 that mentions Adam and Eve, inferring a marital relationship. If it had nothing to do with husband and wife, it would have have mentioned Paul and Anna instead.
I'm not interested in following rabbit trails you are inserting into the conversation. Once you cease throwing away other scripture given, we can move on to your scriptures. Honestly, whether or not those scriptures refer to church settings has nothing to do with women preaching or prophets preaching. I'm not denying those verses, but those verses don't stand alone as if they are the only examples that exist.
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I've given you numerous examples where the Bible demonstrates M-E-N taking a text & "preaching" from it [Peter on Pentecost referenced Joel at the beginning of his sermon, Phillip to the eunuch, Josiah, Neh., etc. ad nauseum]. Now, I'll grant you the same liberty, pls' show where a woman EVER once did so:________________?
Oh, ever heard of Deuteronomy? This was Moses rehearsing from his previous books...if you'd do a little more homework.
But, since we're now in the church economy, I'll be waiting on your NT church example of a woman "preaching" to a church....when Paul explicitly forbid it! Hmmmmmmmm.
Again, I said EVERY TIME they preached, did they do it from text? Nope. Yet that's what you claim preaching is.
Deborah's word's that came directly from God are scripture. Regardless as to whether or not those words were text means nothing. They were the very words of God, just like the ones you recite when you read from your King James.
And Moses wrote more than just Deuteronomy. What was he rehearsing when he wrote those previous books?
And why does it come down to a NT example of a woman? Can't ignore Deb anymore?
Paul may have forbid it, but Paul isn't the writer of the law, nor is he God, nor will he judge me.
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........have to appeal to MEN [such as Moses, Noah, etc.] for your "proof" that WOMEN can "preach"????????????
I'll say it once more, but if you don't read it this time, don't bother responding.
The same word in the Hebrew used to define what those prophets did (read "preach") is the same Hebrew word used to define what Deborah was doing when she spoke the Word of God to Barak.
You don't have to accept it. You can throw it out, deny it, whatever you want. But I'm done discussing it with you.
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And the jewelry is also mentioned BEFORE [& in between the "because" & "therefore"] the wearing of ornamentation. Do you deny this from the actual text?
There is no jewelery mentioned before the "because". The only thing mentioned between the "because" and "therefore" is "they make a tinkling with their feet." After the "therefore" the list of jewelry is given.
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