Can Women Pastor ?

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by rdp

Still waiting on that Biblical verse where a woman "preached" to men:__________________.

The text says, nor indicates no such thing about Deborah, or Huldah, of Mary M. by the way. Hmmm, so every woman who tells someone about the ressurrection of Christ is now a "preacher"????????? Have you ever heard of eisegesis? Or the logical fallacy of assumption?

Deborah & Huldah PROPHESIED about what God was going to do...not "preached sermons" to men! Pls. provide for me where they "taught/preached" to men from the Scriptural text [which was actually even brought to Huldah!]

Still waiting on you deal w/ I Tim. 2, & I Cor. 14, which you apparently cannot do. I Tim. was written, "so that you may know how you ought behave yourself IN THE HOUSE OF GOD, which IS THE CHURCH." How much plainer does it get???? Your simply ignorining these God-Breathed passages will not make them disappear. Jesus entered into the synangogue & "taught" the people. Was he preaching? Of course He was. This is the same word that Paul employs in I Tim. 2:12....which he forbids women to do??????????

Consantine was not Biblical Christianity, so any appeal to him supposedly "changing women preaching" needs to be validated in Acts [the true "early church"].

Have to go, away for a week or so............

Still having difficulty getting around the definition of 'succourer', aren't you?

But another thing...if a woman is in the park telling all who are within earshot about Jesus and Him crucified, is she preaching and therefore wrong?

And let me know how you will justify to God that women shouldn't obey Matt 28:19.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by rdp

The text says, nor indicates no such thing about Deborah, or Huldah, of Mary M. by the way. Hmmm, so every woman who tells someone about the ressurrection of Christ is now a "preacher"????????? Have you ever heard of eisegesis? Or the logical fallacy of assumption?

Did you know that Paul is the only person referred to as a preacher in the NT? Not any other man nor woman is mentioned as having that title in the NT. Not one.

Do you know the definition of 'preach'?

It's not, 'to scream, shout, or proclaim with a voice loud enough to silence airplanes that Jesus is Lord, tell a story like a parable, or invent your own interpretations of scripture while slobbering, sweating, stomping, and saying 'uh' after each syllable.'

Funny...Mary et al. telling about the resurrection of Jesus to the disciples isn't preaching, but get a loudmouth sweaty male preacher behind a pulpit in a building with four walls and a roof saying the exact same words and he's preaching!!!

[Sinatra]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Succourer. Read the Strong's definition I posted and weep. She was also a helper, but Paul specifically mentions succourer. That's specific for only Phoebe. No one else in the Bible is mentioned by anyone to have that title.

Do you know the definition of 'preacher'? It's someone sharing the good news. Here's the definition for you.



Are you going to claim that women cannot do the above? What scripture do you have to support that claim?

Oh, and in case you didn't notice, there's nothing mentioned above in regard to a church building, pulpit, and that it's only for a man to do.

Did you like how the Bible rates Miriam right up there with Aaron and Moses? I bet you don't.

As for Deborah, ever wonder why even priests, who were also prophets, called on WOMEN to give them a Word from God? It's nice how you like to sweep away the importance of their words which became scripture...the very Word of God. Huldah was called upon as well by both priests and kings. Ever wonder why God didn't just tell the priests what He wanted the kings to know?? I mean, God can't use women to share the gospel or His death, burial, and resurrection, but when He has a prophecy proclaiming doom and gloom, women are good enough, right?

Preach sermons? Scripture says women can't do that or that only men can? Where???

Of course, I'm sure you are one of those men that don't allow women, including your wife, to teach you anything. That would be against God's Word, wouldn't it???

H1....Just curious? Where would you fit Anna the Prophetess into this?..... Luke 2

Notice it says that she spake of him to all them that looked for redemption. When I looked spake up in Strongs this is what I found......

Spake: Strongs Concordance Def......laleo lal-eh'-o
A prolonged form of an otherwise obsolete verb; to talk, that is, utter words: - preach, say, speak (after), talk, tell, utter. Compare G3004

Luke 2:36, 37, 38. And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel of the tribe of Aser; she was of a great age and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity. And she was a widow of about four score and four..years, which departed not from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayer night and day. And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Sinatra

H1....Just curious? Where would you fit Anna the Prophetess into this?..... Luke 2

Notice it says that she spake of him to all them that looked for redemption. When I looked spake up in Strongs this is what I found......

Spake: Strongs Concordance Def......laleo lal-eh'-o
A prolonged form of an otherwise obsolete verb; to talk, that is, utter words: - preach, say, speak (after), talk, tell, utter. Compare G3004

Luke 2:36, 37, 38. And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel of the tribe of Aser; she was of a great age and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity. And she was a widow of about four score and four..years, which departed not from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayer night and day. And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem.

I fit her right in with the other prophets and such. She preached about Jesus.

However, RDP and those who believe otherwise will tell you she didn't 'preach', nor were there men present in the temple, and that as a prophetess, she only spoke about future events, which don't count.

[Sinatra]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

I fit her right in with the other prophets and such. She preached about Jesus

.....yep........and it looks like she was doing it in the temple...

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Sinatra

.....yep........and it looks like she was doing it in the temple...

Shame on her! RDP should have been there to tell her she couldn't do that!

[Sister Alvear]

she spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem.

speaking...you speak with your voice, people hear...I kinda doubt if she was using sign language...

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

she spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem.

speaking...you speak with your voice, people hear...I kinda doubt if she was using sign language...

But, was she:

1. Stomping
2. Saying 'uh' after each syllable
3. Sweating
4. Behind a pulpit
5. Growling
6. Have men present
7. Preaching a sermon
8. Called of God
9. Named as a preacher in the Bible

??

Any of the above? If not, she doesn't qualify!

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Sinatra

H1....Just curious? Where would you fit Anna the Prophetess into this?..... Luke 2

Notice it says that she spake of him to all them that looked for redemption. When I looked spake up in Strongs this is what I found......

Spake: Strongs Concordance Def......laleo lal-eh'-o
A prolonged form of an otherwise obsolete verb; to talk, that is, utter words: - preach, say, speak (after), talk, tell, utter. Compare G3004

Luke 2:36, 37, 38. And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel of the tribe of Aser; she was of a great age and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity. And she was a widow of about four score and four..years, which departed not from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayer night and day. And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem.

Very good!

[Sister Alvear]

surely there were men looking for redemption...if it would have been only women I think the Bible would have said she spoke to the women...doesn't sound like to me she was off in a corner knitting...