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07-09-2009, 01:47 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
Sorry didn't mean to hijack the thread.
On subject of women pastors, Legalist, what do you think other than 'thumbs down'?
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07-09-2009, 02:21 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
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I know you addressed your question to someone else, but please allow me to offer my viewpoint.
I don't think it is a 'sin' if a pastor pastors alone, per se. I do think that that pastor is more vulnerable to operating out of pride, self will and more of a dictatorship model IF he/she has no accountability in their lives.
I also believe that churches that have co-pastors and pastors that equally share the load and weight of ministry and ministry-related decisions, delegated authority to make quality decisions for the betterment of not just their local church but the entire Body are less prone to burn-out or operate in a spirit of stress.
As we all know, many pastors get burned out by the ministry and decide to leave it all alone. I don't have statistics in that I don't have a computer at home, but if I were allowed time to research, I have no doubt that I would find that most of the pastors that burn out do so because they take on way too much....alone. They haven't or won't delegate responsibilities or authority to anyone else. They have to have their hand in all the pots on the stove, and some in the oven, so to speak.
This stems from a lack of trust within those in their leadership circle or their insecurity.
It's just like a single parent having to raise his/her kids alone. It can be done, but they will need the support, prayers and resources necessary as to not burn-out. It would be better if there was a two parents in the home, but we all know not every home has them.
The harvest is plenteous, but the laborers (who can be entrusted with the work of God, of discipling the souls) are few indeed.
Just some ponderings...God Bless You!
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07-09-2009, 04:15 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
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Originally Posted by easter
Oh,now your opening up a can of worms.
As a Fundamentalist I will have to say that a woman should not hold the office of a pastor.
As a Fundamentalist a woman should not be in eldership roles either..
OK...
A woman can hold the place of teacher but should not be in leadership of a church.
Brother Scott are you trying to get me stoned here 
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Interesting.
If a man is a "teacher" in the church hes considered part of the 5 fold ministry.
If a woman is a "teacher" in the church shes just doing a good deed. Especially when it comes to younger children. Lord knows that most men have bigger, better and more important things to do than to teach children about God. Even teenagers are generally used as "ministry stepping stones" to prove oneself before hitting the evangelistic field or trying out for a church.
Chew on that for awhile.
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07-09-2009, 04:19 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
Thought just occurred to me that one of the most important ministries is to the children - reach them early - teach them the foundations they need so when they test the waters of the world, they'll come back to the foundation of truth taught - and know God for themselves.
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07-09-2009, 04:22 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
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GP
I know you addressed your question to someone else, but please allow me to offer my viewpoint.
I don't think it is a 'sin' if a pastor pastors alone, per se. I do think that that pastor is more vulnerable to operating out of pride, self will and more of a dictatorship model IF he/she has no accountability in their lives.
I also believe that churches that have co-pastors and pastors that equally share the load and weight of ministry and ministry-related decisions, delegated authority to make quality decisions for the betterment of not just their local church but the entire Body are less prone to burn-out or operate in a spirit of stress.
As we all know, many pastors get burned out by the ministry and decide to leave it all alone. I don't have statistics in that I don't have a computer at home, but if I were allowed time to research, I have no doubt that I would find that most of the pastors that burn out do so because they take on way too much....alone. They haven't or won't delegate responsibilities or authority to anyone else. They have to have their hand in all the pots on the stove, and some in the oven, so to speak.
This stems from a lack of trust within those in their leadership circle or their insecurity.
It's just like a single parent having to raise his/her kids alone. It can be done, but they will need the support, prayers and resources necessary as to not burn-out. It would be better if there was a two parents in the home, but we all know not every home has them.
The harvest is plenteous, but the laborers (who can be entrusted with the work of God, of discipling the souls) are few indeed.
Just some ponderings...God Bless You!
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Enjoyed your musings!
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07-09-2009, 04:52 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
No Women may not be Elder/Pastors. The qualifications for them all are aimed at men. They may labor otherwise in the gospel.
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07-09-2009, 05:52 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
No Women may not be Elder/Pastors. The qualifications for them all are aimed at men. They may labor otherwise in the gospel.
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07-09-2009, 06:01 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
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Originally Posted by LadyRev
Interesting.
If a man is a "teacher" in the church hes considered part of the 5 fold ministry.
If a woman is a "teacher" in the church shes just doing a good deed. Especially when it comes to younger children. Lord knows that most men have bigger, better and more important things to do than to teach children about God. Even teenagers are generally used as "ministry stepping stones" to prove oneself before hitting the evangelistic field or trying out for a church.
Chew on that for awhile.
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You are 100% Right
I believe when God made Man,he thought well I can do better then this,God made woman 
Women who teach little children about God think about this"their Angel always behold the face of the Father.What an Honer to lead a little one to Jesus.
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07-09-2009, 06:05 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
Brother Scott I told you "You've opened a can of WORMS and I don't mean Spirit Worms. 
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07-09-2009, 06:18 PM
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Re: Can Women Pastor ?
My dog has worms,we put medicine in her food ,and then she goes outside and poops.
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