Tattoos-What do ya think?

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Actually I thought Bro. Benincasa's post was very insightful. He brought up several issues that should be explored in regard to issues like this.

MOW posted his position on this thread. I would think that means he is open to discussing what he said. So, how is MOW's opinion any more or any less acceptable than is Bro. Benincasa's?

Also, where did Bro. Benincasa incorrectly use any scriptures? As a matter of fact, where did he quote any Bible in his post?

The difference between the posts are as far apart as Ann Coulter is from Anderson Cooper. One was laying out an opinion the other laying out accusations. Telling someone what a poor father they are on an open forum shows a complete lack of class and decorum.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

The difference between the posts are as far apart as Ann Coulter is from Anderson Cooper. One was laying out an opinion the other laying out accusations. Telling someone what a poor father they are on an open forum shows a complete lack of class and decorum.

That's how I saw it too.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

The difference between the posts are as far apart as Ann Coulter is from Anderson Cooper. One was laying out an opinion the other laying out accusations. Telling someone what a poor father they are on an open forum shows a complete lack of class and decorum.

Baron,
You know that I respect you highly, but Benincasa never used that wording - a poor father. His post was relative to the discussion, from his point of view and thinking. I didn't believe his post (as I read it again) pointed in as caustic a way as you have made it out here - JMO.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

The difference between the posts are as far apart as Ann Coulter is from Anderson Cooper. One was laying out an opinion the other laying out accusations. Telling someone what a poor father they are on an open forum shows a complete lack of class and decorum.

And what if a person, maybe like yourself, would suggest on an open forum that Bro. Benincasa is less of a preacher than is MOW? Would that show a complete lack of class and decorum?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Forget just being a preacher, how about the role of a father? It's not what you preach over the pulpit that your family will be in tune to, but how you live your life at home. Your sons would follow your lead of clean un-tattooed skin, because what they see on the inside of you. Not because of the outside of you.

This is a very valid point, IMO. It does not, in any way, suggest that MOW is a bad father. He is using this to teach what he believes in the role of a father. I have no problem with this.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

This whole post can be summed up with just looking at a few your statements.



Preach, also comes together with teach. If you combined the two you would never have to worry about future foibles.

When the children leave they do as they very well please, and sometimes go after those things they were never allowed to do. What I allow and disallow can be forgotten if I never TAUGHT the reasons why they were wrong, or unprofitable for a time later in their life. I have daughters, and for them to get tattoos would not only be unacceptable, but would send a massage to a wrong element of society. What we wear sends a message and tattoos send those messages at more levels then you can imagine. Forget just being a preacher, how about the role of a father? It's not what you preach over the pulpit that your family will be in tune to, but how you live your life at home. Your sons would follow your lead of clean un-tattooed skin, because what they see on the inside of you. Not because of the outside of you.


You all are still just placing emphasis on the outside, the same way you did when you taught and preached standards. You claim that you came out of the standards, and no longer adhere to them, but in reality you still do.
You just do it in different ways now. Jesus told the Pharisee that He loved their holiness standards in Matthew 23, but He hated their inner man.
You all were so busy preaching the Sear's catalog that you lost sight of the inner man, and 86ed the outer garments of separation, just to blend into the maddening crowds. Confused? I would say so. Slouching towards mediocrity?
Maybe, or Postmodernism? I think the latter is closer to the facts.



They broke? A covenant or contract means nothing if it is never explained the consequences of breaking the contract. Also, what covenant in the scripture allowed Israel to sin a little, if the promise not to sin a lot?

It sounds like you were telling them they can drink Beer at home with you, just as long as they promised they wouldn't drink Jack Daniels and Johnny Walker Black, at the local topless bar. Pierced ears? Just as long as you don't tattoo your shoulder blade?

What were their consequences for breaking your covenant with them?
Did you stipulate one?

If you didn't you did it through man's mindset and not through a Biblical template.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Sounds accusatory to me.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

And what if a person, maybe like yourself, would suggest on an open forum that Bro. Benincasa is less of a preacher than is MOW? Would that show a complete lack of class and decorum?

I don't know how either of them as "preachers" so I couldn't make the comparison. I did however suggest that the attitude that I perceived was showing a complete lack of respect. It wasn't here is my opinion on tats it was here is why you are a bad father and I am a good one.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Sounds accusatory to me.

Your lawyer side is showing......

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Sounds accusatory to me.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You all were so busy preaching the Sear's catalog that you lost sight of the inner man, and 86ed the outer garments of separation, just to blend into the maddening crowds. Confused? I would say so. Slouching towards mediocrity?
Maybe, or Postmodernism? I think the latter is closer to the facts.

I think we have a whole lot going on in the Christian community - OF ALL FAITHS - to sincerely be concerned with the above statement that Benincasa made.

I think Miss California, for me right now, is what I am thinking of when I read what he wrote above. There is a lot of confusion going on right now with trying to blend in and be relevant with society, IMO. That is what I am seeing going on around me today.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Your lawyer side is showing......

Maybe that's it?