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01-20-2009, 07:46 AM
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Re: Sarah Palin Prophecy
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During the 80's, and I assume most of the 90's in many of the church's it was assumed that The Pope (or 'A' pope) was going to be the antichrist.
Whatever happened to that view?
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During the 1970s, Henry Kissinger was thought to be the Antichrist. Then it was Anwar Sadat as prime Antichrist fodder. Oh, and Teddy Kennedy was in there somewhere. I even remember how, around 1991, Saddam Hussein took a turn as Antichrist.
That would be an interesting list, all the people that preachers and writers and general gossip had fingered as antichrist in the last half-century...and how it hasn't happened.
"No man knows the day nor the hour..."
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01-20-2009, 03:22 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin Prophecy
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Originally Posted by SiblingRevelry
During the 1970s, Henry Kissinger was thought to be the Antichrist. Then it was Anwar Sadat as prime Antichrist fodder. Oh, and Teddy Kennedy was in there somewhere. I even remember how, around 1991, Saddam Hussein took a turn as Antichrist.
That would be an interesting list, all the people that preachers and writers and general gossip had fingered as antichrist in the last half-century...and how it hasn't happened.
"No man knows the day nor the hour..."
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You are loosely quoting Matthew 25:13,
"WATCH therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."
People (not nesercerily Christians) for over 2,000 years have been involved in guess work. They use current events around them to predict their future.
Using current events and world leaders is not anything new when it comes to prophecy. Napoleon, Adolf Hitler, Ronald Reagan, Gorbachev, Joseph Ratzinger, and Barrack Obama. Sarah Palin as a modern day Ester?
The Twin Tower attack being found in the book of Isaiah?
Jesus, and Paul admonished the Church to watch those signs that scripture agreed with, not the Evening News.
Luke 21:34
"And TAKE HEED to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you UNAWARES."
1Th 5:3-6
"For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon THEM, as travail upon a woman with child; and THEY shall not escape. But YE, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake YOU as a thief. YE are all the children of light, and the children of the day: WE are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let US not sleep, as do OTHERS; but let US watch and be sober."
Mat 24:24
"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the VERY ELECT."
No guess work involved and no frowns on the faces of those in the pews.
Allow the Bible to explain itself, and not the Miami Herald to be the guide.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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01-20-2009, 05:56 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin Prophecy
Well, the individual who said that Obama would be assassinated while he was being sworn in has been proven to be a false prophet.
More goof ball speculation blamed on hidden Bible code.
http://www.satansrapture.com/obama.htm
I still wonder how many individuals spout this kind of information to their congregations, unsaved familily members, and co-workers?
How many have told people that Sarah Palin was baptized in Jesus name, and that she was a modern day Esther? Ever wonder why people smirk and raise the eyebrows when some Christians speak about current events?
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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01-20-2009, 05:58 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin Prophecy
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Well, the individual who said that Obama would be assassinated while he was being sworn in has been proven to be a false prophet.
More goof ball speculation blamed on hidden Bible code.
http://www.satansrapture.com/obama.htm
I still wonder how many individuals spout this kind of information to their congregations, unsaved familily members, and co-workers?
How many have told people that Sarah Palin was baptized in Jesus name, and that she was a modern day Esther? Ever wonder why people smirk and raise the eyebrows when some Christians speak about current events?
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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Exactly.
Does "88 Reasons why the Lord will return in 1988" and "The Y2K disaster" ring any bells?
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01-20-2009, 06:55 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin Prophecy
I can't understand how any self respecting free thinking Christian could ever give credance or credibility to Dutch Sheets.
"He is synergistically joining the government of heaven to the government of earth I will tell ya God is going to move in politics you are going to see kings and leaders I am tell you right now you are going to see them bow the knee you are going to see them prostrate themselves before almighty God you are going to see them lead their nations righteously you are going to see nations come to God in a day you are going to see Holiness and a move of the spirit of God restored to the government of this land I decree it I believe it ...it is so." (Dutch Sheets, National School Of The Prophets-Mobilizing The Prophetic Office, May 12, 2:30, 2002)
Obama said in his inauguration speech that he wishes to see Gay and Straight unite?
Homosexuality is not normal behavior, and therefore you can not have any unification. That would be like saying toy wish to see the insane unite with the sane?
Is Dutch Sheets is eating way too much pizza?
The following e-mail is by Dutch Sheets saying how the Christians had to pray and fast to have McCain and Sarah Palin to win the election. Dutch Sheets calls Palin a modern day Esther, and goes on to lay everything on the backs of American Christians. You see ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Brothers and Sisters. No accountability. Good old bean dream Dutch Sheets dodges the bullet, and puts the blame smack dab on the heads of John Q Christian. Dutch "Jack Leg Jelly Bean" Sheets also reminds his readers of his prior prediction of Sarah Palin.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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01-20-2009, 06:55 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin Prophecy
October 20, 2008
Dear Praying Friend,
In 2000, I wrote the 2nd most important letter of my life—a call to prayer for the elections of that year. I’m now writing what may be my most important letter. I knew the importance of those elections in 2000 was beyond any in my life up to that point and that the spiritual warfare surrounding them would be unlike anything any of us had ever seen. That letter was read by millions of people and I believe millions of them responded by praying. I also believe the prayers turned the tide.
You may question whether President Bush was the right choice; obviously, he has made some blunders in his tenure as president. But two of his decisions alone left no doubt he was God’s choice: Roberts and Alito. These two Supreme Court Justices have proven critical in the process of breaking the hold of humanism, death and anti-God agendas that have ruled the Court for 50 years. I assure you that more devastation—the shedding of innocent blood, immorality, decay of the family and an erosion of our godly heritage—has flowed into our nation through that institution than any other door in America. Many times more. The poison allowed into America through their decisions is beyond any of our abilities to articulate.
The reality in America is that you don’t need to control Congress or the White Hose to rule the nation. You only need 5 people – 5 out of 9 on the Supreme Court. And for decades those who disagree with just about everything you and I stand for have been in control!
In Bush’s two terms, the process of turning this around began with the appointments of Roberts and Alito. Now, we win some cases 5-4 and lose some 4-5. (We barely outlawed partial birth abortion. The vote of one judge saved thousands of babies from this horror.) We need one more conservative Justice for a consistent majority, then more to build a strong majority.
In Obama’s own words, “the next president will appoint at least one, perhaps two or more Supreme Court Justices.” He’s right. Almost certainly two or more older, liberal Justices are waiting until after the elections to retire, in hopes of Obama winning and appointing more liberals to replace them. And he certainly would. He voted against the confirmation of Roberts and Alito. So did Biden. And Biden led the fight against Justice Thomas several years back, another of the 4 solid conservatives. Make no mistake about it, the two of them do have a litmus test for Supreme Court Justices, and a major part of that test is Roe vs. Wade. McCain and Palin, on the other hand, both have very strong pro-life positions. This alone makes the choice for President simple. To vote for the 2nd and 3rd most liberal senators (Obama and Biden), both of whom are firmly and blatantly proabortion, would be unconscionable. Obama has actually said that if he wins, he would like his first action as president to be the signing of the Freedom of Choice Act, which would eliminate every other law against any aspect of abortion (partial birth abortion, parental notification, etc., etc.).
And with a democratic majority in the House and Senate, pretty much any legislation he and Biden want to pass will be a slam-dunk. There are many other unrighteous positions they hold but this position alone makes the choice easy. If they win this election, it will set America back decades in the cause of life and the restoration we seek.
Just as many of you do, I too, want to see a first black President, but not Senator Obama. To allow that noble and godly desire, the economy or one’s position on the war to trump this issue of life and death for the innocent unborn is simply wrong. The scriptures teach that if we choose first to exalt righteousness and turn from evil, God promises to heal our land (see Proverbs 14:34; 2 Chronicles 7:14). It is righteousness that exalts a nation, not wealth, prosperity or armies. If we will finish the process of removing the curses of death and anti-God laws off of America by electing a president that will continue to shift the Court, God will grace us with breakthrough in other areas such as the economy, the war against terrorism, etc. My faith is not in a person, and certainly not a political party, for the healing of America, but I know God’s word and His ways well enough to know that our decisions do move Him to action or inaction.
Now to the heart of my reason for writing this letter (I realize I am “preaching to the choir”—most of you who know or listen to me are conservative enough to vote for McCain and Palin.) I have not written any appeals for prayer concerning this election because: 1) others have, and
2) I believe our movement has matured to the point that the prayer base of the Church is already praying.
But I now feel the need to raise my voice. I am appealing to you to pray for these elections the next two weeks like you’ve never prayed for any in the past. Faithfully. Passionately. Boldly. Ask God for His mercy and grace. We deserve His judgment for removing His influence and authority from our government, schools, homes and businesses; for the killing of 50 million babies; for leading the world in the consumption and exporting of pornography; for passing laws to reject His; etc. But mercy triumphs over judgment and in His wrath He remembers mercy. In 2000 we actually lost the popular vote and won the election—talk about grace! Please pray for this grace to be released again.
But I am also asking you for something more than normal prayer. For those of you who understand spiritual warfare, I am asking you to also include this aspect of prayer. There is no doubt that we have entered a Daniel 10 moment in time: “Then he said to me, ‘Do not be afraid, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart on understanding this and onhumbling yourself before your God, your words were heard, I have come in response to your words. But the prince of the kingdom of Persia waswithstanding me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chiefprinces, came to help me, for I had been left there with the kings of Persia’”(Daniel 10: 12-13 NAS). The spiritual warfare in this election is incredibly fierce, and just as it was in Daniel’s day, is all about the restoration of a nation. And also like Daniel, we must keep praying until we win the battle in the heavens.
In August of this year I predicted that September would mark a shift in momentum for these elections. This happened with the appointment of Sarah Palin as the Vice Presidential nominee (who is a true Esther in our generation), but when the economy began its meltdown and the media ramped up their unprecedented attacks on Palin, that momentum wasn’t sustained. But we can see it turn again if we approach this battle as the spiritual warfare it truly is and bind the evil forces involved (see Matthew 16:18-19).
The reality is that this election can be the breakthrough we need to fully shift the Court (and ultimately our nation) or it will be an immeasurable setback that could take many years to reverse—if ever. Please understand what I am saying: if we engage in this battle and do what I am asking—in mass—we will win; if we do not, we will lose. I, for one, don’t intend to allow the latter. I am in Washington, D.C. now (October 20-22) with Lou Engle and a team of prayer leaders from around the nation to war for this election. Join us! Lose some sleep, miss some meals— pray! Pray like never before for these elections. And as you do, involve yourself not only in petitioning prayer but also in spiritual warfare. Use your God-given authority over the plans and strategies of satan’s kingdom. Bind all witchcraft that is working to control the outcome, including occultic powers that are suppressing truth. Release Christ’s Kingdom rule in every way the Holy Spirit leads you.
Don’t be deceived and don’t lose hope (if you have to, turn off the TV.) It is not too late to turn these elections. God is plenty powerful enough to do so. The real question is will we rise to the level of prayer and spiritual warfare necessary to release that power. And remember, we don’t need a majority of Christians who are willing and able to do this—only a praying remnant. We can do it!
Here are some practical suggestions to consider:
1) Fast (a meal a day; a day a week; a Daniel fast; 3 days; 10 days; TV; etc.) and spend
the time praying.
2) Agree in prayer with someone everyday for God’s will to be done.
3) Form/participate in prayer groups regularly. Churches could pray everyday.
4) Take time in every gathering to pray. (Take 15 minutes in every service to pray for the
elections. Turn an entire service to harp and bowl style intercession—worship and
prayer combined.)
5) Join 2 or more on a conference call and pray for 15, 20, or 30 minutes.
6) Pray on the way to work (and on the way home).
7) Pray before you go to sleep.
Pray before church services.
9) Ask God to give you His strategy—He will!
In His grip,
Dutch Sheets”
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01-20-2009, 06:57 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin Prophecy
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
The above reason is why the magician James Randi will never have to give up his check for 1 million dollars. It's because of these false and bogus stories that discredit the Pentecostal movement in our country.
It is this kind of flaky, touchy, feely warped and weirdness, that send the likes of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, and Dan Dennet into fits of laughter, holding their stomachs, while rolling on the floor with tears streaming from their eyes. Cessationist movements like the Baptists, Church of Christ, Presbyterians, and Lutherans mock when they hear these failed predictions.
Now before you all go into a tail spin allow me to say this, I have heard prophets of God, speak a word, and nail it dead bull’s-eye. Predictions that were as accurate as if they had already happened. Yet, these were not individuals who were running around e-mailing people of their daring do. These were Brothers who were working within and among the people of God.
It is truly amazing to hear individuals squawk about spiritual abuse, manipulation, blast standards of dress, and then turn around and give credence to this mumbo jumbo and outright hooey.
These false prophets make these predictions and blame the people that the predictions were given to, and then walk away unscathed. They blame the individual who the prophecy was spoken over. They say, they didn't pray, or they weren't obedient to the prophet, and so on and so on. Yet, we never hear or see any stipulations, or clauses given by the prophet when he or she make these jack leg claims.
Everyone started jumping up and down when they heard Sarah Palin was baptized in Jesus name. She wasn't, and because we as a movement don't work hard to "PROVE ALL THINGS," we end up with egg on our faces.
I sit with a man almost everyday who has worked the Stock Market for years.
He makes predictions by indicators that he sees while doing research. When he sees something about to happen, he will predict on the way it "MAY" go.
I said all that to say this, when we get so locked into giving credence to individuals who have a bean or pizza dream we gain their spirit. Or parking lot prophets who meet you after service and tell you a prophecy of vagueness, based totally on "cold-call methods." Then we get cynical and caulous to a point that even the real deal gets bypassed. If the Brothers and Sisters in our movement will look a little closer to the bug on the leaf, and place these jokers under the hot white light of the scriptures and Holy Ghost discernment, then we may, just may, see this kind of foolishness go the way of the wooly Mammoth.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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01-20-2009, 10:29 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin Prophecy
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Exactly.
Does "88 Reasons why the Lord will return in 1988" and "The Y2K disaster" ring any bells?
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And so on, and so on...
Well, I guess it's one way to make money in this economy.
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01-21-2009, 10:51 PM
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Re: Sarah Palin Prophecy
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Originally Posted by SiblingRevelry
During the 1970s, Henry Kissinger was thought to be the Antichrist. Then it was Anwar Sadat as prime Antichrist fodder. Oh, and Teddy Kennedy was in there somewhere. I even remember how, around 1991, Saddam Hussein took a turn as Antichrist.
That would be an interesting list, all the people that preachers and writers and general gossip had fingered as antichrist in the last half-century...and how it hasn't happened.
"No man knows the day nor the hour..."
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Henry Kissinger the Antichrist? Ted Kennedy was the 4th horseman.
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