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Old 12-30-2008, 10:36 PM
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Abrahamic Covenant Unconditional ?

Now The Lord had said to Abram,Get thee out of thy country,and from thy kindred,and thy father's house unto a land I will show thee:
And I will make of thee a great nation,and I will bless thee,and and make thy name great,and thou shalt be a blessing:
GEN.12:1,2

Notice that even before Abram had departed from his father's house and kindred,The Lord told Abram He would make him a great nation and also and in thee shall all familes or nations or peoples of the earth be blessed verse 3 Of GEN.12.

Notice The Lord said I will make of thee a great nation,He didn't say Abram if you mess up or don't follow me the deal is off,but the Lord said I will now does that mean the Abrahamic covenant is unconditional ?

Also God knowing the things that Abraham would do,why did God say I will and not if you mess up Abraham the deal is off ?

The Mosiac covenant had many stipulations yet the coveant of Abram had God saying I will and not I won't if you mess up Abraham ?
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Old 12-31-2008, 04:21 PM
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Re: Abrahamic Covenant Unconditional ?

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Now The Lord had said to Abram,Get thee out of thy country,and from thy kindred,and thy father's house unto a land I will show thee:
And I will make of thee a great nation,and I will bless thee,and and make thy name great,and thou shalt be a blessing:
GEN.12:1,2

Notice that even before Abram had departed from his father's house and kindred,The Lord told Abram He would make him a great nation and also and in thee shall all familes or nations or peoples of the earth be blessed verse 3 Of GEN.12.

Notice The Lord said I will make of thee a great nation,He didn't say Abram if you mess up or don't follow me the deal is off,but the Lord said I will now does that mean the Abrahamic covenant is unconditional ?

Also God knowing the things that Abraham would do,why did God say I will and not if you mess up Abraham the deal is off ?

The Mosiac covenant had many stipulations yet the coveant of Abram had God saying I will and not I won't if you mess up Abraham ?
Sure it is conditional. Get out of your country and I will make of thee. The condition was if you mess up, but if you obey.

He obviously messed up remember Ishmael? But as long as he was obedient he lived in the promises of God.
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Re: Abrahamic Covenant Unconditional ?

Of course God did require things of Abraham and I do not believe in osas,but God did the promise of God to Abraham,rest on Abram getting out of his country,and from his father's house or did it rest on God's choosing and His soverignity ?

God did bless Israel when she obeyed God, still when Israel disobeyed God did God toss away the promise His promise to Abraham that He would make of Him a great nation ?
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