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05-30-2008, 03:25 PM
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Re: What would you do
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
The reality is God did not intend for polygamy to be the norm. He doesn't outright forbid it in the NT. One who wishes to please God ought not practice polygamy. However I think we would be hard pressed to show that God was so displeased with Polygamy that he punished for it. For example he punished Sodom for its sin, and yet under David Israel was blessed while David practiced polygamy and David was punished when he committed adultery. There does seem to be a hands off approach by God for Polygamy yet punishment for adultery or homosexuality.
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You beat me too it. lol
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05-30-2008, 03:27 PM
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Re: What would you do
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Watch closely grasshopper he only sanctified the SEVENTH day, that Seventh day for he rested (ceased to work) on that day. Then He uses that as an example for the Sabbath for the Children of Israel which he says is a sign between Him and Israel, a sign by definition is unique. There is not a single verse that indicated the Sabbath was observed before it was given to Israel.
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Clearly God himself observed it as a rest from creative activity...
And the Ten Commandments are the Law of God...not the Law of Moses. Are we to honor the Ten Commandments or are they just Ten Previously Enforced Suggestions? lol
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05-30-2008, 03:28 PM
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Re: What would you do
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
Yes.
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I concure. I'd only restrict him from serving as a bishop.
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05-30-2008, 03:33 PM
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Re: What would you do
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Originally Posted by Grasshopper
Clearly God himself observed it as a rest from creative activity...
And the Ten Commandments are the Law of God...not the Law of Moses. Are we to honor the Ten Commandments or are they just Ten Previously Enforced Suggestions? lol
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I believe all 613 commandments belong in the same category they were all given to Israel. The Sabbath itself was said to be a sign between Israel and God. Those commandments are not so unique to their time, most were laws man instinctively know.
Again God ceased work on the seventh day of his creation and blessed THAT day not every seventh day from then forward.
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05-30-2008, 03:34 PM
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Re: What would you do
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Originally Posted by Grasshopper
I concure. I'd only restrict him from serving as a bishop.
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I think some perspective on the whole Bishop thing might be in order as well... It is encumbent upon us to remember the context here as well... Paul mentions many times that he would rather ministers not marry but remain single as he is so that they might not be burdened down with having to provide for a family, they could focus on the work of God more completely.....
it is with this same mindset that a BISHOP or ruler of the church if he is going to marry should not take more than ONE WIFE,, wit the same principles applying.. it would divert him from the work of the church....
as one can imagine servicing and taking care of 10 wives could keep one busy
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05-30-2008, 03:34 PM
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Re: What would you do
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I concure. I'd only restrict him from serving as a bishop.
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Wow grasshopper you are finally growing up and learning to agree with me, soon I will have you voting for McCain.
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05-30-2008, 03:36 PM
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Re: What would you do
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
I believe all 613 commandments belong in the same category they were all given to Israel. The Sabbath itself was said to be a sign between Israel and God. Those commandments are not so unique to their time, most were laws man instinctively know.
Again God ceased work on the seventh day of his creation and blessed THAT day not every seventh day from then forward.
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Baron, I understand where you going and I somewhat concur.. i just get real leery of one of GODS Covenants not being everlasting.. he is the God that keepeth Covenant.. and while I do follow you... I am not comfortable with "this covenant is still good, this one is not"
He is a God of Covenant
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05-30-2008, 03:37 PM
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Re: What would you do
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Wow grasshopper you are finally growing up and learning to agree with me, soon I will have you voting for McCain.
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McCain had my vote.. until he showed his colors in the John Hagee deal... he turned on that man quicker than anything to please the media.... it showed a tremendous character flaw to me.......
Everything John Hagee said was scripturally correct
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05-30-2008, 03:39 PM
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Re: What would you do
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Baron, I understand where you going and I somewhat concur.. i just get real leery of one of GODS Covenants not being everlasting.. he is the God that keepeth Covenant.. and while I do follow you... I am not comfortable with "this covenant is still good, this one is not"
He is a God of Covenant
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New Covenant trumps the Old.
Jeremiah 31:31
"The time is coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.
Luke 22:20
In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.
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05-30-2008, 03:45 PM
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Re: What would you do
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New Covenant trumps the Old.
Jeremiah 31:31
"The time is coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.
Luke 22:20
In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.
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Baron... present the scripture where he did away with the old.. I understand making a new covenant.... just as I would make a new morgtage on my house but the old would still be in place.... on this subject I am not versed so I am in no position to argue it... but I am trying to come to some conclusions on the matter
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