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01-08-2008, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt
I know that first hand of many good minded ministers. It is the AS that makes them feel guilty....
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They may be "good minded" but are spiritually immmature, IMO. The day the AS maskes me "feel guilty" is the day I need to re-examine the principles of the Word fo God and grow up.
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01-08-2008, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
I have been a UPCI memeber, and have preaqched in UPCI churches. I am not licensed with the UPCI, or have any desire to do so in the future.
This is my thoughts as well. To have passed a Res to use a technology to witness, while stile having that technology "off limits", sends a mixed signal, IMHO.
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HAHAHA!!! My spelling was so bad in that post I thought Thad typed it.
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01-08-2008, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt
I bet the numbers on who watches TV in the UPCI is high.....
WHy deny the obvious.....
Many can watch their favorite TV shows on the internet...
I bet many of hte ministers are watching 24 on Fox.com....
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Originally Posted by tv1a
Likewise those legalists who chose not to hold the internet to the same principle as television. What an assinine comment to make saying one's vote doesn't count. How desparate are you to find an excuse why legalism lost?
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Of course the votes don't count. They disqualified themselves by lying and signing the AS.
OF COURSE, these fellows are given a pass because everyone else throws their ethics out the door and signs something with one hand and teaches and lives something with the other, speaking out of both sides of the mouth.
Interesting that you are advocating hypocrisy. If following ethics and upholding my word means I am a legalist, you can call me that all day.
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01-08-2008, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jekyll
Of course the votes don't count. They disqualified themselves by lying and signing the AS.
OF COURSE, these fellows are given a pass because everyone else throws their ethics out the door and signs something with one hand and teaches and lives something with the other, speaking out of both sides of the mouth.
Interesting that you are advocating hypocrisy. If following ethics and upholding my word means I am a legalist, you can call me that all day.
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Just so understand you correctly, every minster who voted for the resolution is a liar; and they were given a pass because every other minister involved threw their ethics out in order to support the liars? I just want to understand that you are painting the whole fence and not just one plank at a time.
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01-08-2008, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TrmptPraise
Just so understand you correctly, every minster who voted for the resolution is a liar; and they were given a pass because every other minister involved threw their ethics out in order to support the liars? I just want to understand that you are painting the whole fence and not just one plank at a time.
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Nope...according to everyone that says, "We have a TV already, I don't know what the big deal is...," according to the fellows around here. According to a buch of people here, EVERYONE either watches videos or has a TV already.
The people that vote after closing their eyes and signing the AS has a suspect vote, in my opinion. Doesn't matter which way they vote. Everyone ASSUMES that I am just talking about the proponents of the res.
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01-08-2008, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jekyll
Nope...according to everyone that says, "We have a TV already, I don't know what the big deal is...," according to the fellows around here. According to a buch of people here, EVERYONE either watches videos or has a TV already.
The people that vote after closing their eyes and signing the AS has a suspect vote, in my opinion. Doesn't matter which way they vote. Everyone ASSUMES that I am just talking about the proponents of the res.
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I knew of a few saints who had TV who said they didn't and then some that admitted they did but haven't verified any ministers because in Oregon they'd burn you to the stake! lol
I did however run into a pastor who preached a revival for a church in Oregon and he pastored down in Cali. He preached so passionately on how maybe you should sell your car and give it to the Lord and named some like your BMW, Cadillac, etc but then I walked out after the altar call and noticed he drove a nice Lexus and I said "Hey Brother....and he finished my sentence by saying 'I didn't say Lexus, did I?'
Needless to say I would never recommend him to preach or pastor anyone.
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01-08-2008, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rrford
They may be "good minded" but are spiritually immmature, IMO. The day the AS maskes me "feel guilty" is the day I need to re-examine the principles of the Word fo God and grow up.
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Without the AS would you watch TV? That is the question....
What principle in the word of God tells you no TV?
Not bad TV any TV?
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01-08-2008, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jekyll
Of course the votes don't count. They disqualified themselves by lying and signing the AS.
OF COURSE, these fellows are given a pass because everyone else throws their ethics out the door and signs something with one hand and teaches and lives something with the other, speaking out of both sides of the mouth.
Interesting that you are advocating hypocrisy. If following ethics and upholding my word means I am a legalist, you can call me that all day.
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I am not advocating it. I think the AS itself is a lie...
Because the organization has never enforced it....
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01-08-2008, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt
I am not advocating it. I think the AS itself is a lie...
Because the organization has never endorced it....
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do you mean enforced?
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01-08-2008, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rrford
They may be "good minded" but are spiritually immmature, IMO. The day the AS maskes me "feel guilty" is the day I need to re-examine the principles of the Word fo God and grow up.
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I would tend to believe the computer you are on has more temptation and bad progrmming attached to it than TV.
I am glad to see that you are mature enough to self regulate yourself on the internet.
But you know for certain you could not self regulate yourself with a TV.
Last I checked there is a 50 billion dollar a year industry on the internet.
It is 1 in 4 websites.....
It is not 1 in 4 TV channels.
Using the internet after signing the "AS" makes one a hypocrite.
The internet in the telecommunication industry that I have been in for 10 years.
Is now called "E-TV".
Nathan Eckstadt
The technology paper written by the UPCI needs to be updated to outlaw the use of the internet as it does TV to be consistant for viewing...
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