Evangelism thru World Impact Message by Keith Phillips

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by CC1

I didn't have a battery tender on it during the winter and this summer it sounded like sometimes my battery was barely turning over but the bike would always crank very quickly except for early in the summer one time but then I put it on a trickle charger and it was ok the rest of the summer until about three weeks ago.

Then I was at a gas station gassing up to go riding with my son who was home from Camp LeJune and it would not start. Would not even after charging it for an hour.

Took the battery out and to the Honda place where it tested bad so I paid $77.00 (arghhhh) for a new battery. Only road it a couple of times after that because of the heat and it seems fine now.

Otherwise no issues at all.

AHHHH, DON'T GO TO HONDA FOR A BATTERY!!!!

Wal-Mart same battery and it's cheaper.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benin's

CK, you are speaking of a doctrine of purifying a soul through some sort of trial after death? Would that happen to be a burning fire? Do they enter the lake of fire and come out the other side to the arms of Jesus?

CK, the Lake of Fire has no end to it's torment, it's a HR period that continues forever and ever. Hence the meaning of torment day and night for ever and ever. Henceforth if you lie you fry.

You are presenting a doctrine of "purger", to make clean, which people need to be in that process while they are alive, and NOT after they die.

A man only gets one shot and then the JUDGMENT.

You doctrine is no where found in scripture. Please help me to understand by presenting your teaching backed by scripture.

Burning destruction is something that must be avoided.


In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

It does no good to post scripture, you do not have ears to hear what the Word of the Lord is concerning His ultimate intentions for His highest creation. He had a plan in the beginning, to create man, a plan that included a time of exposure to the total opposite of good and Godliness, so that man will have mature and complete understanding of righteousness. He purposed in the beginning to bring His creation to redemption and completeness. He will not cast off forever, nor will He be angry forever.

The doctrine of endless torment came from the distorted and perverted minds of wicked men, certainly not the mind and purpose of our sinless and righteous Heavenly Father. There is no darkness in Him, not even a shadow, to torture His creation forever would be the worst kind of evil.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by CC1

ROFL!!!! Sounds like crackerjack might be able to go preach for Carlton Pearson.

I don't know CP, nor do I prescribe to what appears to be the embracing of those that practice sinful lifestyles. Those that come to God must be instructed in righteousness, not embraced in their sin.

All men will have to "see Jesus" to be made like Him, for all of us it will be a radical spiritual remodeling, for some it will be more radical than others.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

CJ, you are speaking of a doctrine of purifying a soul through some sort of trial after death? Would that happen to be a burning fire? Do they enter the lake of fire and come out the other side to the arms of Jesus?

CJ, the Lake of Fire has no end to it's torment, it's a 24hr period that continues forever and ever. Hence the meaning of torment day and night for ever and ever. Henceforth if you lie you fry.

You are presenting a doctrine of "purger", to make clean, which people need to be in that process while they are alive, and NOT after they die.

A man only gets one shot and then the JUDGMENT.

You doctrine is no where found in scripture. Please help me to understand by presenting your teaching backed by scripture.
Burning destruction is something that must be avoided.


In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

If you are honest, as you read the following verses you will have to admit that there is reasonable consideration for the Ultimate Reconciliation of all men. You can decide not to embrace this position, but you cannot intellectually declare that there is no scripture that in any way suggests Universalism. Happy reading bro.

2 Corinthians 5:18,19

Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

1 Timothy 4:10

For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.

1 John 2:2

and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

Romans 5:18

So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men.

1 Corinthians 15:22

For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.

Originally Posted by crakjak

If you are honest, as you read the following verses you will have to admit that there is reasonable consideration for the Ultimate Reconciliation of all men. You can decide not to embrace this position, but you cannot intellectually declare that there is no scripture that in any way suggests Universalism. Happy reading bro.

2 Corinthians 5:18,19

Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

1 Timothy 4:10

For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.

1 John 2:2

and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

Romans 5:18

So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men.

1 Corinthians 15:22

For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.

CJ,

I understand where you are coming from... but I have no problem identifying in all these scriptures that while provision has been made for all, all will not avail themselves of the provision. If I prepare a meal of awesome proportions and set the table and sit all men to the table and only some of them eat the meal then is only provision for the partakers even though it was adequate for all.

Do you get my point?

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by philjones

CK,

I understand where you are coming from... but I have no problem identifying in all these scriptures that while provision has been made for all, all will not avail themselves of the provision. If I prepare a meal of awesome proportions and set the table and sit all men to the table and only some of them eat the meal then is only provision for the partakers even though it was adequate for all.

Do you get my point?

Of course I get your point.

There is scripture that gives support to the Calvinistic view that only the "elect" can be saved, the Armanian view that only those that respond to the gospel now will be saved, and there is also scripture to support that God intends to redeem the whole creation as a final victory over the curse and evil.

I was responding to EV statement that there is "no scripture" at all for Universal Reconciliation, in which he is just wrong. One can decide to take one view or another but should be intellectually honest enough to acknowledge that it is reasonable for some else to have a different view based on where one places value on scripture, the nature and character of God.

How are your sis and bnl?

Originally Posted by crakjak

Of course I get your point.

There is scripture that gives support to the Calvinistic view that only the "elect" can be saved, the Armanian view that only those that respond to the gospel now will be saved, and there is also scripture to support that God intends to redeem the whole creation as a final victory over the curse and evil.

I was responding to EV statement that there is "no scripture" at all for Universal Reconciliation, in which he is just wrong. One can decide to take one view or another but should be intellectually honest enough to acknowledge that it is reasonable for some else to have a different view based on where one places value on scripture, the nature and character of God.

How are your sis and bnl?

Doing well. We are all working together to plan Mom's 75th birthday celebration on Saturday September 1. We are expecting many old friends and dignitaries to attend and join us in celebrating the "first 75 years" of warrior possessed of eternal life!

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by philjones

Doing well. We are all working together to plan Mom's 75th birthday celebration on Saturday September 1. We are expecting many old friends and dignitaries to attend and join us in celebrating the "first 75 years" of warrior possessed of eternal life!

These are blessed and precious times to cherish, our Mom and Dad are both gone. Just last evening I without any warning had a very strong awareness of how many of the loved ones that were fixtures around us are now gone. I had never had such an acute sense of loss. May the Lord bless your family during this celebration.

The exciting thing is that we even now have that same eternal life resident in ourselves and will join them all shortly.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

AHHHH, DON'T GO TO HONDA FOR A BATTERY!!!!

Wal-Mart same battery and it's cheaper.

I hear you. I am the ultimate bargain hunter but it was my son's last day here before going back to Camp LeJune and we had already lost several hours stranded so I gritted my teeth and forked out the bucks.

Normally I would have checked pricing online and at Wal Mart, etc before buying.

My recent online bargains include a flip up full face helmet for $79 and a shorty helmet for $24.99. I have a decent full face helmet but with glasses those flip ups are even nicer.