In the women/pants/hell thread, SE gave this explanation of why certain abominations in the OT are still bad today, and some are now OK:
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Again READING the passage instead of reading AT IT would make it clear.
The unclean meats were an abomination UNTO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unisex clothing was an abomination UNTO GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU and GOD are NOT the same.
There are clear NT passages that make the eating of these meats proper there is NO passage that says unisex clothing is alright.
If it was an abomination UNTO GOD it still is.
This could cover the things mentioned as abominations (if it's correct), but what about the other laws? Not every forbidden thing is called an abomination, either to "you" or to "God". The Ten Commandments, for example, and "take no gift" (Exodus 23:8).
And is this way of classifying abominations a commonly held view of Apostolics? I have seen only SE espouse the idea, I think.
Any thoughts?
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Frist, there was a discussion of meats the other day and I believe that God clearly dealt with this spicifically in Acts.
I believe the law per say applies. however, the punishments perscribed in the OT were paid in full on the cross.
we still need to understand that what was intended by the law, is accomplished in the Christian by Grace...which Titus tells us is a teacher, guiding us away from sin and to an overcoming life!
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In the women/pants/hell thread, SE gave this explanation of why certain abominations in the OT are still bad today, and some are now OK:
This could cover the things mentioned as abominations (if it's correct), but what about the other laws? Not every forbidden thing is called an abomination, either to "you" or to "God". The Ten Commandments, for example, and "take no gift" (Exodus 23:8).
And is this way of classifying abominations a commonly held view of Apostolics? I have seen only SE espouse the idea, I think.
Any thoughts?
Deut 22:5 DOES NOT cover unisex clothing. It covers the abomination of homosexuality. Period.
Deut 22:5 DOES NOT cover unisex clothing. It covers the abomination of homosexuality. Period.
Too bad this truth (above) isn't taught more often, rather than the untruth(s) that so often is taught.
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1Pe 5:6-7 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.
Tit 3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.
Psa 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
None Timmy. Yep, you can cuss, steal, lie, cheat, blasphemy...sin all day and all night long without any thought about repentance...oh wait....Hmmm the bible does say in the NT we have to repent. I wonder what we are supposed to repent of?
Maybe SOME THINGS...in the law...are still sins today. I'll venture to guess that if the NT mentions it being wrong (and it was wrong in the OT), then it's still wrong
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