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12-13-2024, 05:53 PM
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Re: Can God learn?
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What contradiction? The contradiction between the Bible and what "many Christians" believe? I would explain that by saying the Bible is right, and they are wrong. 
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Or their interpretation of the Bible is wrong and yours is right?
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Genesis 6:5 KJV
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Psalm 139:1-2 KJV
O LORD, thou hast searched me, and known me. [2] Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off.
Psalm 44:21 KJV
Shall not God search this out? for he knoweth the secrets of the heart.
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I believe God knows our thoughts also. Since God knows our thoughts, why does he test our faith?
Do you agree with the way Open Theists understand God's foreknowledge?
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12-13-2024, 07:49 PM
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Re: Can God learn?
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Or their interpretation of the Bible is wrong and yours is right?
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Well, with all due respect, the same could be said about you. When it came to the COVID 19 vaccine. You call us ignorant, when we ( who were not part of the healthcare industry ) refused an experimental vaccine. I do believe history will judge us prudent. But, you reactive and fearful.
Here is a 500 page report you might want to peruse.
https://oversight.house.gov/release/...-path-forward/
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12-15-2024, 07:25 AM
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Re: Can God learn?
I don't think the question is about can God learn? But can man?
People view religious documents which are thousands of years old, through a lens of their current culture. How their particular religion, cult, or denomination views their current culture. Also man is locked into who he follows as their authority, parents, employer, religious leader, mentor, etc. All these things prevent man from assessing new information properly, with objectiveness. Another factor is fear, fear of what new information may cause him. In the way of loss. Man has a tendency for safety. Taking the easy path, following the popular group. Or adhering to the most favored ideology within their culture or group. Not making waves by standing out, because we all know what happens to the nail that sticks out. So, can man learn?
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01-06-2025, 10:22 PM
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Re: Can God learn?
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Can God learn? What are your thoughts and opinions?
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01-07-2025, 07:25 AM
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Re: Can God learn?
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Prax, is this you?
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04-03-2025, 04:04 PM
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Re: Can God learn?
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Psalm 147:5 needs must be taken into account. Here is a list of versions:
https://biblehub.com/psalms/147-5.htm
The Hebrew text reads:
לִ֝תְבוּנָת֗וֹ אֵ֣ין מִסְפָּֽר
liṯḇūnāṯōw ’ên mispār
My translation:
His understanding cannot be accounted for.
See: https://biblehub.com/interlinear/psalms/147-5.htm
Now, this may only speak to our epistemological limits, such as to suggest that God's understanding is not actually infinite, just that our ability to account for His understanding of things is limited, even if His is also limited, but less so than ours.
I don't particularly like that interpretation, but I think it at least belongs on the table, so to speak.
But if God's understanding is truly infinite, then that means all situations and circumstances, occurrences and possibilities, in every conceivable world, is known to Him.
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04-04-2025, 11:41 PM
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Re: Can God learn?
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Psalm 147:5 needs must be taken into account. Here is a list of versions:
https://biblehub.com/psalms/147-5.htm
The Hebrew text reads:
לִ֝תְבוּנָת֗וֹ אֵ֣ין מִסְפָּֽר
liṯḇūnāṯōw ’ên mispār
My translation:
His understanding cannot be accounted for.
See: https://biblehub.com/interlinear/psalms/147-5.htm
Now, this may only speak to our epistemological limits, such as to suggest that God's understanding is not actually infinite, just that our ability to account for His understanding of things is limited, even if His is also limited, but less so than ours.
I don't particularly like that interpretation, but I think it at least belongs on the table, so to speak.
But if God's understanding is truly infinite, then that means all situations and circumstances, occurrences and possibilities, in every conceivable world, is known to Him.
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That is correct. But, that does not mean God cannot "learn". God knows things as they actually are. Not all things are certainties. Many things are possibilities.
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