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06-23-2022, 12:20 AM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
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Gentile church? Never read that one in the Book.
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It's found in Larkins 33:14, quoting Darby chapter 3 or something. Or maybe I'm thinking of Darby O'Gill and the Little People... ?
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06-28-2022, 03:21 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
Update:
A new batch of online newspapers from 1940-1960 came online this week. Of interest to the book project is that the newspaper was one from Stockton, California. So I was able to pick up info about the beginnings of Christian Life Center, as pastored by Clyde J. Haney. Other data was the decline of an earlier Oneness church in Stockton that Harry Morse had pastored.
New book purchases include a songbook of hymns compiled by L. C. Hall. They were published by his wife after his passing.
Another book was a 1955 yearbook from ABI. It has some interesting images in it.
The other book is a history of Oneness Pentecostalism in Canada penned by Ralph Reynolds. Most of the book covers the history from around 1930-1960. But it did leave a few clues about Oneness evangelists from the 1920's.
Harry Morse pastored in Vancouver, Canada back in 1913. But Reynolds was unaware of it.
The only other tidbit that came in was a painting of San Francisco that Garfield Haywood painted back in 1921. I shared a electronic copy of the painting with the Haywood family. They were unaware of it and were pleased.
I wonder how many other Haywood paintings are out there ??
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06-28-2022, 07:50 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
SP,
You’re writing a biography, correct?
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06-29-2022, 03:54 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
It began as the biography of Harry Morse. No one wrote about him, so I had nothing to go on. At first, it was slow going. I kept running into his peers. But no one had written anything about his peers, either.
So I took a different approach and wrote the history of the spread of Pentecostalism from Azusa Street Mission to San Francisco. No one had put together that history.
Morse was in the Peniel Mission movement, but no one wrote about them.
Prior to Peniel, he was a member of the Volunteers of America. They have an archive and were of great assistance.
Morse was PCI, but there is no history of the PCI.
Mind you, writing biographies requires a certain skillset which I did not have when I began this project.
In the end, I wrote the history of the spread of Pentecostalism from Azusa Street to San Francisco, the spread of the PCI in California, the impact of the Peniel Mission movement on early Pentecostalism, and biographies of Harry Morse and his peers.
As more data comes in, I incorporate it into what I already have. I hope to fill in a few corners before completing the project.
Interpreting the data, understanding the big picture is a bit out of my reach. I am not a historian. It is not a theological biography. Perhaps i will leave that to others and present the hard data, like the history of who attended his small Bible college.
Original source information and documents about California Pentecostalism prior to 1930 are scarce. But they do show up in odd places.
I have conducted dozens of interviews from those who knew Harry Morse or whose parents were his students. I have yet to travel to the UPC archive. I have quite the library of early Oneness Pentecostalism. Mainly self published biographies or old songbooks. Many pictures from the old days are on file, but there is no one to identify who is in the picture.
Progress is slow and the end of the project is near.
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06-30-2022, 12:19 AM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
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My wife attended Apostolic Bible Institute, the college S. G. Norris founded just outside of St. Paul, MN, and was a member of the church there, too, before we were married, back in 2005 and 2006, and a fourteen-year endtime tribulation was the doctrine being taught at the school by the college president/senior pastor, who was S.G. Norris's son in law.
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I had the tape of that sermon from a 1970's prophecy conference message by SG Norris. Weak.
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07-08-2022, 07:32 AM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
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I had the tape of that sermon from a 1970's prophecy conference message by SG Norris. Weak.
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Brother Blume, do you still have that tape?
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07-08-2022, 03:27 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
The sermon tape of Urshan discussing his revelation of God prior to 1913 is for sale at WAP.
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07-08-2022, 05:50 PM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
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The sermon tape of Urshan discussing his revelation of God prior to 1913 is for sale at WAP.
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Already have it.
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07-14-2022, 04:10 AM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
Maria Woodworth -Etter statement about Oneness Pentecostalism
Spirit Filled Sermons, page 153
Most people are being led away and trying to hold Jesus up and at the same time are tearing down by denying the existence of the Father. This is the biggest delusion the devil ever invented. You endeavor to tear God off His throne- the God of Heaven and all his love and mercy. Take away God and Jesus Christ will suffer, tear God out of the bible and you take the whole foundation out of the Bible and there is nothing left at all. But it is all a sign that Jesus is coming soon and that this is the great sifting time. May God help us and open our eyes.
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07-14-2022, 04:10 AM
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Re: Who was Harry Morse ?
Maria Woodworth -Etter statement about Oneness Pentecostalism
Spirit Filled Sermons (1921), page 153
Most people are being led away and trying to hold Jesus up and at the same time are tearing down by denying the existence of the Father. This is the biggest delusion the devil ever invented. You endeavor to tear God off His throne- the God of Heaven and all his love and mercy. Take away God and Jesus Christ will suffer, tear God out of the bible and you take the whole foundation out of the Bible and there is nothing left at all. But it is all a sign that Jesus is coming soon and that this is the great sifting time. May God help us and open our eyes.
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