Don't bet against Trump

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by n david

A couple weeks ago there was some Dem House Rep who wrote to Pelosi asking she not seat the GOP House members who continue to back Trump.

This would be an incredibly stupid move by the Dems. They paid dearly for Harry Reid allowing the nuclear option. This could backfire majorly whenever the GOP wins control of the House and if they had a House Speaker who wanted to play hardball with the Dems.

Dems better hope she's bluffing, because this would set a precedent that could really hurt them in the future.

One thing about the wording of Section 3. It says that Congress must choose Electors chosen by the "legitimate tribunal" of the States. The constitution clearly makes the State Legislatures the legitimate tribunal in the case of choosing electors.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by n david

I don't believe that. Do you have a source?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/its-t...ned-parenthood

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

https://www.dailywire.com/news/its-t...ned-parenthood

Congress funds, not the White House. In case you hadn't noticed, Trump has been under a non-stop assault since the day he announced his candidacy. Sometimes time restraints require that one choose their battles carefully. Your logic on this matter is flawed. You, and several like you on here should simply adopt the JW mindset on voting and patriotism. The rest of us will put our lives on the line so you can continue to be petty.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Congress funds, not the White House. In case you hadn't noticed, Trump has been under a non-stop assault since the day he announced his candidacy. Sometimes time restraints require that one choose their battles carefully. Your logic on this matter is flawed. You, and several like you on here should simply adopt the JW mindset on voting and patriotism. The rest of us will put our lives on the line so you can continue to be petty.

So its OUR fault for believing he would DO what he said he would? He said HE would defund Planned Parenthood. He never said anything about the Congress would do it.

We heard HIM say he was going to make Antifa a terror group. It never happened. But its OUR fault for believing he would do what he said.

But anyway I pray for Trump. I support him OVER the Democomms. I still have hope in GOD.....that HE will show mercy.

We must realize if he does not his judgment is right. America is drowned in sin.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So its OUR fault for believing he would DO what he said he would? He said HE would defund Planned Parenthood. He never said anything about the Congress would do it.

We heard HIM say he was going to make Antifa a terror group. It never happened. But its OUR fault for believing he would do what he said.

But anyway I pray for Trump. I support him OVER the Democomms. I still have hope in GOD.....that HE will show mercy.

We must realize if he does not his judgment is right. America is drowned in sin.

Is he supernatural? Can he do more in his waking time than any other mortal man? Does he not have lawyers examining things so he can lawfully do things? You are holding him to a standard you would never hold yourself to.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Is he supernatural? Can he do more in his waking time than any other mortal man? Does he not have lawyers examining things so he can lawfully do things? You are holding him to a standard you wold never hold yourself to.

Let it be for our learning. Politicians make BIG promises! They should always preface them with "I will do such and such.....if Congress will do it"! "I will definitely do such and such....if the SCOTUS is ok with it"!

Then we wont be able to hold anyone accountable for not doing what they say they will do.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Let it be for our learning. Politicians make BIG promises! They should always preface them with "I will do such and such.....if Congress will do it"! "I will definitely do such and such....if the SCOTUS is ok with it"!

Then we wont be able to hold anyone accountable for not doing what they say they will do.

Originalist, Mike is making a simple point.

Everyone says the same thing about their candidate. That they can’t get everything done in their first 4 years. So if the Donald met such opposition as you say, then why isn’t he going to deal with the same or more for his next term? I mean I’d love to agree with you on everything. But what you are saying doesn’t draw a promising conclusion.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Originalist, Mike is making a simple point.

Everyone says the same thing about their candidate. That they can’t get everything done in their first 4 years. So if the Donald met such opposition as you say, then why isn’t he going to deal with the same or more for his next term? I mean I’d love to agree with you on everything. But what you are saying doesn’t draw a promising conclusion.

Trump got quite a bit done in his first 4 years. To say otherwise is to be very dishonest.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Trump got quite a bit done in his first 4 years. To say otherwise is to be very dishonest.

It depends on what our priorities were how we see it. My main ones were:

Get rid of abortion. Drain the swamp. Defend the 1st and second amendment. Supreme Court picks.

While he did not promise to END abortion defunding PP would have at least been a "win".

The "swamp" meanwhile is alive and well. Mrs. Clinton "suffered enough" not getting to rule the world. The first amendment has been trashed about 70% as to the public square. DJT has agreed with "red laws" to confiscate guns first then have a trial later.

On these 4 priorities of mine overall I would give him perhaps a "C". So far it looks as if his SC picks were ill advised but it would be hard to tell if someone would actually be a Conservative if appointed.

The Democomms, who are fighters, demand that their picks be TOTALLY LIBERAL. Repubs say they have no litmus test.

But DJT did lower taxes and cut regulations. Same as any Repub would have done. He stood with Israel to his credit and perhaps strengthened the military. Our country is now in debt farther than could ever be imagined so tho jobs were at an all time high that does level out the optimism.

I like that he stood up to the press better than the Repubs before him but name calling and "tweets" wont get the hardest job (in the natural world) done.

Again, I am still for him. I thank God we had Trump instead of the Clintons. We had 4 years more to do what were doing. In his mercy God can do this again. If it is his will.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

It depends on what our priorities were how we see it. My main ones were:

Get rid of abortion. Drain the swamp. Defend the 1st and second amendment. Supreme Court picks.

While he did not promise to END abortion defunding PP would have at least been a "win".

The "swamp" meanwhile is alive and well. Mrs. Clinton "suffered enough" not getting to rule the world. The first amendment has been trashed about 70% as to the public square. DJT has agreed with "red laws" to confiscate guns first then have a trial later.

On these 4 priorities of mine overall I would give him perhaps a "C". So far it looks as if his SC picks were ill advised but it would be hard to tell if someone would actually be a Conservative if appointed.

The Democomms, who are fighters, demand that their picks be TOTALLY LIBERAL. Repubs say they have no litmus test.

But DJT did lower taxes and cut regulations. Same as any Repub would have done. He stood with Israel to his credit and perhaps strengthened the military. Our country is now in debt farther than could ever be imagined so tho jobs were at an all time high that does level out the optimism.

I like that he stood up to the press better than the Repubs before him but name calling and "tweets" wont get the hardest job (in the natural world) done.

Again, I am still for him. I thank God we had Trump instead of the Clintons. We had 4 years more to do what were doing. In his mercy God can do this again. If it is his will.

Im not sure if Trump was too naive to proclaim he was going to drain the swamp or he literally thought he could in his first term. This swamp has been going on for years, it was foolish for him to say that, AND foolish for those who believed that he could in such a small amount of time.

I do believe he rattled the swamp, he stirred things up in Washington in a way that hasn’t been done in years. That is to his credit, he is I believe self proclaimed or through other sources “a disrupter”. Because of him we got to see the other side of the media, and Washington that we haven’t seen before.

Also, he has not started a war I cannot remember the number but, in my lifetime he is the first president to do so. It’s been a great last 4 years, and well see what the next 4 years will be....