7th Day Sabbath not for New Testament believers

[RonMurray]

Jesus is the Sabbath, He is our rest. When we are filled with the Holy Spirit, then we receive the rest -- we enter into the Sabbath and enter into the rest.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by RonMurray

Jesus is the Sabbath, He is our rest. When we are filled with the Holy Spirit, then we receive the rest -- we enter into the Sabbath and enter into the rest.

Amen. I think it's a little deeper than that though. But basically that's right. I believe the rest we enter into in Christ is where absolutely no concern is given toward any thought of making ourselves better for him, seeing as we fully trust in what his work on the cross alone caused us to be.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Amen. I think it's a little deeper than that though. But basically that's right. I believe the rest we enter into in Christ is where absolutely no concern is given toward any thought of making ourselves better for him, seeing as we fully trust in what his work on the cross alone caused us to be.

The bottom line is that holy days, months and years from law are not to be kept in the church.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by mfblume

The bottom line is that holy days, months and years from law are not to be kept in the church.

Instead, we can keep holy days from paganism (Sunday, Christmas, etc).

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Instead, we can keep holy days from paganism (Sunday, Christmas, etc).

No, we keep no holy days.

[mfblume]

Gal 4:..9....But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage ?

Paul said that Jerusalem in his day was in bondage with her children, because they were under the mother of Hagar which was the law and the answers to Mount Sinai in Arabia. Law was from the Mount Sinai that was in Arabia. The land of bondage. That's what law is. That's the bondage you refuse to see that's written in Galatians chapter 4 verse 9.

The Bondage of the elements of the world corresponds to this bondage in the same chapter!!!

Gal 4:..24....Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar...
..25....For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
..26....But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

The Covenant gendereth to bondage, not pharisaism. The actual old Covenant from Sinai. Whatever evils pharisaism surely held, this passage is talking about a bondage that the old Covenant from Sinai gendereth toward.

[Tithesmeister]

Gal.3

[1] O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
[2] This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?y
[3] Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

[13] Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
[14] That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Gal.3

[1] O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth,

God's word is truth (John 17:17), all God's commandments are truth (Psalm 119:151), man is to live by every word of God (Luke 4:4).

before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

Crucified for our sins (1 Cor 15:3), sin is transgression of the law (1 John 3:4), we are not to sin (1 John 2:1, 1 John 3:6, 1 John 3:9).

[2] This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Spirit given to those who obey God (Acts 5:32), faith does not make the law void but rather establishes the law (Romans 3:31), faith is demonstrated by works (James 2:20), saints have faith in Jesus and keep the commandments of God (Rev 14:12), it is the natural, carnal man who is not and cannot be submitted to the law of God (Romans 8:7), the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in those who follow the Spirit (Romans 8:4).

[3] Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

We are not in the flesh but in the spirit if we have the Holy Ghost (Romans 8:9), the law of the Spirit frees us from the law of sin (Romans 8:2), the law of sin causes disobedience (Romans 7:23), being freed from disobedience we are to submit to God and yield to Him (Romans 6:19), the Spirit causes us to obey God's statutes and judgments (Ezekiel 36:27).

[13] Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Redeemed from THE CURSE of the law, not redeemed from the COMMANDMENTS of God (Romans 6:14-15)

[14] That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.[/QUOTE]

Abraham would be a blessing by transmitting God's way to his posterity (Gen 18:18-19), God's way is spelled out in His laws (Isaiah 2:3), righteousness comes through Christ (Romans 5:21, Phil 1:11), who enables us to obey God (Romans 8:2-4).

Those who do not keep God's commandments do not know Him (1 John 2:3-5).

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by RonMurray

Jesus is the Sabbath, He is our rest. When we are filled with the Holy Spirit, then we receive the rest -- we enter into the Sabbath and enter into the rest.

Holy Bible, Book of Interneticus, ch 3, verse 16?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Gal 4:..9....But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage ?

Paul said that Jerusalem in his day was in bondage with her children, because they were under the mother of Hagar which was the law and the answers to Mount Sinai in Arabia. Law was from the Mount Sinai that was in Arabia. The land of bondage. That's what law is. That's the bondage you refuse to see that's written in Galatians chapter 4 verse 9.

The Bondage of the elements of the world corresponds to this bondage in the same chapter!!!

Gal 4:..24....Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar...
..25....For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
..26....But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

The Covenant gendereth to bondage, not pharisaism. The actual old Covenant from Sinai. Whatever evils pharisaism surely held, this passage is talking about a bondage that the old Covenant from Sinai gendereth toward.

The bondage is to sin (Romans 7:23, John 8:34), the Old Covenant cannot free from sin (Heb 10:1, Romans 8:3), the New Covenant has replaced the Old Covenant (Heb 8:7-8). The New Covenant involves the LAWS OF GOD BEING WRITTEN ON THE HEART AND MIND (Heb 8:10) which results in obedience to the commandments of God (Ezek 36:26-27, Ezek 11:19-20, Romans 2:13-15, 2 Cor 3:6-12).