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06-13-2018, 12:10 PM
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Re: Bott '14
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
I’m not talking about him calling someone an idiot.
I’m talking about the wanting to force someone with lead poisoning.
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I mean youve gotta realize Jeff Arnold use to live that way. Man I've had dreams committing crimes robbing people doing drugs exactly how I use to live even being saved. Waking up sweating going thank God it's not true. I use to live that way so I understand.
I can only imagine the dreams the Apostle Paul had being a murderer before his conversion. I don't think that's too in normal. He's referring to this situation btw (1 of the best BOTT messages ever)
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06-13-2018, 12:59 PM
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Re: Bott '14
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
I’m not talking about him calling someone an idiot.
I’m talking about the wanting to force someone with lead poisoning.
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Are you serious? He shared a dream he had at the most intense part of his trial and you think that disqualifies him to serve God? Goodness. We know that there are times that dreams come to torment us or, if from God, come to bless us.
Goodness.
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06-13-2018, 05:49 PM
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Re: Bott '14
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Are you serious? He shared a dream he had at the most intense part of his trial and you think that disqualifies him to serve God? Goodness. We know that there are times that dreams come to torment us or, if from God, come to bless us.
Goodness.
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He didn't have any dream.
Yes, I'm as serious as a heart attack.
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06-13-2018, 05:55 PM
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Re: Bott '14
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Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen
I mean youve gotta realize Jeff Arnold use to live that way. Man I've had dreams committing crimes robbing people doing drugs exactly how I use to live even being saved. Waking up sweating going thank God it's not true. I use to live that way so I understand.
I can only imagine the dreams the Apostle Paul had being a murderer before his conversion. I don't think that's too in normal. He's referring to this situation btw (1 of the best BOTT messages ever)
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Bro, I don't have nightmares. I use to have things called night horrors, after Jesus name. No more as I snore. In Jesus name. The Apostle Paul didn't have nightmares about taking Christians before the Bet Din, or watching Stephen get executed. I love some of Brother Jeff Arnold's preachings especially the early stuff. But, what I posted is what I posted. My dear sister PO and you believe as you please. The Lord love you both, all is well. 
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06-14-2018, 11:27 AM
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Re: Bott '14
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
He didn't have any dream.
Yes, I'm as serious as a heart attack.
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He said that he had these dreams, night after night after night ("...and the dreams were, I would wake up in Humble, Tx"...) and woke up in a cold sweat.
So, you are saying that JA is lying, which would make him a liar? Is that your stance?
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06-14-2018, 06:54 PM
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Re: Bott '14
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
I’m not talking about him calling someone an idiot.
I’m talking about the wanting to force someone with lead poisoning.
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You don't think you're being a little too hard on that man of God? We all have our weaknesses. Clearly he didn't actually force someone with lead poisoning. The Bible makes room for us to, "anger but sin not". Why throw the hammer down on this preacher in his moment of transparency.
Our movement needs a stronger emphasis on personal transparency in order to facilitate deeper fellowship so that we don't have life-long church members who are saved but never ever feeling like their church home was a place where they could find family.
The irony is not lost on me. "Bucky Bukaroo" is saying that, "our movement needs a stronger emphasis on personal transparency..."
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06-14-2018, 08:08 PM
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Re: Bott '14
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Wow! A golden oldier from 1994. 24 years ago. I don't think BOTT will be having Rex back anytime soon. He is a great guy. I didn't realized he had spoken at any BOTT's.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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06-15-2018, 05:50 AM
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Re: Bott '14
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
He said that he had these dreams, night after night after night ("...and the dreams were, I would wake up in Humble, Tx"...) and woke up in a cold sweat.
So, you are saying that JA is lying, which would make him a liar? Is that your stance?
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My stance? What am I being interviewed by NPR?
Watch the video again, very carefully at the part where he talks about the “dream.” Consider his body language, watch closely. Is he lying? You decide.
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06-15-2018, 05:51 AM
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Re: Bott '14
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Originally Posted by CC1
Wow! A golden oldier from 1994. 24 years ago. I don't think BOTT will be having Rex back anytime soon. He is a great guy. I didn't realized he had spoken at any BOTT's.
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I like him.
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06-15-2018, 07:38 AM
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Re: Bott '14
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
My stance? What am I being interviewed by NPR?
Watch the video again, very carefully at the part where he talks about the “dream.” Consider his body language, watch closely. Is he lying? You decide.
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No, I don’t believe the man is a liar.
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