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03-13-2018, 01:13 AM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
F Bombs?
Are those the ones that bring forth Sulphur Demons?
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Haha. No. Profanity.
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03-13-2018, 06:33 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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Matt Maddix of Soulwinner Bootcamp -
Anyone know his current status or affiliation? He does a lot motivational speaking...
Is he Pentecostal?
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Good question. I did not know he had left the UPC but have not seen or heard anything about him in a long time. It seemed when he went through his divorce he just tried to keep on going without missing a beat.
If he has morally fallen I take no joy in it although he was one of my least favorite preachers and is one that would make me ashamed to be associated with. All of the wild flips, somersaults, etc acting like a nutcase while behind the pulpit were just nuts.
On the other hand I had read where when he pastored in Florida his church had many differnt kinds of outreaches to the community that i did think were great. I am talking meeting some physical needs with no strings attached for folks to see christians showing the love of Christ as an example. I believe they gave a lot of turkeys away to the poor at Thanksgiving, and maybe cold bottles of water on hot days at busy stoplights.
Now I am curious and will have to see if the google machine has any updates on Jumping Matt Maddix.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-13-2018, 06:44 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-13-2018, 08:44 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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03-14-2018, 05:44 AM
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Re: Matt Maddix
An acquaintance of mine pastors a small home missions church in Alaska. within the last year he had Matt Maddix there to preach, so he does still do at least some preaching. I never heard anything more about the "revival" after this pastor talked up having him come for weeks. No reports of anything really. Maybe that is telling, maybe it isn't.
From my POV, I went to both Maddix and his son's Facebook pages a few months ago when a local pastor was advertising his Maddix Publishing business. Here is what I noticed from spending way WAAAYYYY too much time on both pages.
First, almost 0 mention at all of Jesus, Apostolic churches, going to church, being a minister, promoting any home church or any church at all. Red flag number 1.
Next, almost every post is about nothing but money and success. All about how much success he wants. How hard he works for it. How he wants you to hire him to come speak to your company and make you successful. Constant flow of posts about all these other "self help" gurus like Tony Robbins and Grant Cardone that he hob knobs with now. How he and his son are always flying to California or Malibu or (insert fancy rich place here) to be with some other big name rich celebrity self help coach.
Finally, and most annoying to me, he constantly pimps his son as the greatest teenager in history because he writes books and is going to make a million dollars by his 18th birthday or some such nonsense. I don't have the stomach to hear a teenager with no real life experience giving self help advice. Apparently there is a market for it though as this kid sells these dumb books.
Overall, I hesitate to judge only on social media posts because perhaps they have chosen to keep their faith a secret and use social media only for business and promoting their livelihood. But my gut tells me the guy went through a very bad situation/divorce, something went bad with the church and so he washed his hand so fit and now just embraces the "get rich and try to encourage and build up people and that will be enough to satisfy and save you" mentality. The guys does a lot of feeding the hungry and homeless. Awesome. You can still find yourself damned for eternity while feeding the homeless. Get yourself and you kid in a good church and get your spiritual lives right and focused instead of chasing more money and name recognition.
I don't know him so I can't say for sure. What I can say is that his and his kid's pages make me sad and sometimes disgusted that a guy who was working very hard for the Kingdom (even if I didn't agree with some of his methods) now seems to only strive to build his and his kids little castles on earth.
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03-14-2018, 06:56 AM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
F Bombs?
Are those the ones that bring forth Sulphur Demons?
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03-14-2018, 07:01 AM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
He was distancing himself because he is a drinker?
Probably believes Billy Graham is in heaven sharing a cigar with Charles Spurgeon.
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OUCH!
Was Charles Spurgeon a smoker? Which reminds me, Dr. Gene Scott would preach and smoke at the SAME TIME on public TV when I lived in CA many years again.
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03-14-2018, 09:21 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013
An acquaintance of mine pastors a small home missions church in Alaska. within the last year he had Matt Maddix there to preach, so he does still do at least some preaching. I never heard anything more about the "revival" after this pastor talked up having him come for weeks. No reports of anything really. Maybe that is telling, maybe it isn't.
From my POV, I went to both Maddix and his son's Facebook pages a few months ago when a local pastor was advertising his Maddix Publishing business. Here is what I noticed from spending way WAAAYYYY too much time on both pages.
First, almost 0 mention at all of Jesus, Apostolic churches, going to church, being a minister, promoting any home church or any church at all. Red flag number 1.
Next, almost every post is about nothing but money and success. All about how much success he wants. How hard he works for it. How he wants you to hire him to come speak to your company and make you successful. Constant flow of posts about all these other "self help" gurus like Tony Robbins and Grant Cardone that he hob knobs with now. How he and his son are always flying to California or Malibu or (insert fancy rich place here) to be with some other big name rich celebrity self help coach.
Finally, and most annoying to me, he constantly pimps his son as the greatest teenager in history because he writes books and is going to make a million dollars by his 18th birthday or some such nonsense. I don't have the stomach to hear a teenager with no real life experience giving self help advice. Apparently there is a market for it though as this kid sells these dumb books.
Overall, I hesitate to judge only on social media posts because perhaps they have chosen to keep their faith a secret and use social media only for business and promoting their livelihood. But my gut tells me the guy went through a very bad situation/divorce, something went bad with the church and so he washed his hand so fit and now just embraces the "get rich and try to encourage and build up people and that will be enough to satisfy and save you" mentality. The guys does a lot of feeding the hungry and homeless. Awesome. You can still find yourself damned for eternity while feeding the homeless. Get yourself and you kid in a good church and get your spiritual lives right and focused instead of chasing more money and name recognition.
I don't know him so I can't say for sure. What I can say is that his and his kid's pages make me sad and sometimes disgusted that a guy who was working very hard for the Kingdom (even if I didn't agree with some of his methods) now seems to only strive to build his and his kids little castles on earth.
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I watched a few minutes of a video promoting his publishing business and what jumped out at me was him promoting that if you bought his publishing package him and his 15 year old son would guide you. I thought to myself this is not a sales pitch that appeals to me. I don't know too many adults who feel a 15 year old is equipped to guide them in a business venture.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-15-2018, 03:34 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
I had some dealings with him back in the 90's when he was a popular, up and coming Evangelist in the UPCI. A nice, sincere guy. But he was symptomatic of what is wrong often times with our views on "revival". He would literally JUMP up on the pulpit while preaching, in one leap. It was these kinds of theatrics that impressed people and made him in demand, not the substance of his message. "Oh if we just get a guy in here like Maddix, we will have revival!" is what I often heard.
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03-15-2018, 03:38 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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Originally Posted by RachelRose
OUCH!
Was Charles Spurgeon a smoker? Which reminds me, Dr. Gene Scott would preach and smoke at the SAME TIME on public TV when I lived in CA many years again.
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Spurgeon would puff on a cigar on occasion, but stopped the practice. Different time and culture. Why anyone would want to misrepresent him like that to you is beyond me. But some Apostolics only feel secure when putting other groups down.
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