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Old 01-03-2018, 07:09 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

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a sperm is the vehicle that carries DNA. God doesn't need to use a sperm to implant DNA into a egg. And He doesn't need preexisting DNA either. That's why it is a miracle.
Jesus was a divine implant?

Was he then, the son of man as per Mary, or as per a God/man?

Mary was not his biological mother?
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Old 01-03-2018, 07:16 AM
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Jesus was a divine implant?

Was he then, the son of man as per Mary, or as per a God/man?

Mary was not his biological mother?
Sorry Mizpeh, Sean doesn’t understand the word miracle.
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Old 01-03-2018, 07:21 AM
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....and really does not understand how Jesus is the "son of Man" without Mary being his biological mother.
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....and really does not understand how Jesus is the "son of Man" without Mary being his biological mother.
Sean doesn’t believe virgin births are miracles. News at 4.
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Old 01-03-2018, 10:10 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

The miracle is the sperm cell God created to impregnate Mary's egg, not the "miraculous implant" that some assume, making Mary NOT the biological mother of Jesus.
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Old 01-03-2018, 07:52 PM
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Jesus was a divine implant?

Was he then, the son of man as per Mary, or as per a God/man?

Mary was not his biological mother?
I'm not sure what you are asking but if I understand your terms correctly then I would say that....

1. Jesus was not a divine implant.
2. He was God become a man, like you and I except without a sperm. The DNA that would have come from a human father was created by God. The inner man of Christ was God humanified. (I agree with the doctrine of the creation of the soul and disagree with the doctrine of traducianism.
3. of course Mary is his biological mother.
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Old 01-03-2018, 08:00 PM
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I'm not sure what you are asking but if I understand your terms correctly then I would say that....

1. Jesus was not a divine implant.
2. He was God become a man, like you and I except without a sperm. The DNA that would have come from a human father was created by God. The inner man of Christ was God humanified. (I agree with the doctrine of the creation of the soul and disagree with the doctrine of traducianism.
3. of course Mary is his biological mother.
Okay, if Mary was his biological mother, then her egg was used to produce Jesus, right?

If not, then can a person be biologically part of a person without an egg cell involved in their creation?

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Okay, if Mary was his biological mother, then her egg was used to produce Jesus, right?

If not, then can a person be biologically part of a person without an egg cell involved in their creation?
I guess those atheist evolutionists are rubbing off on you.
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In what way?
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And you know?
I do not. I only know that Jesus is not who you say he is.
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