Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Again--no answer.

So, after asking many times, and you not answering all those times, I guess we must accept you will not, or cannot, answer what aegsm76 asked you.

You not answering what you're asked is so normal.

And you claim to be the God-called fixer of all things wrong with the Apostolic movement.

I answered him plainly, and you guys rejected it. Bias runs deep for presupposition and religion.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

Yes TK, it says God and our Father.

I like it alot.

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[Sean]

The fact is, you guys are afraid to reword the verses I am posting to fit your H/U model.

Why don't you show me what these verses are supposed to say if I am reading them wrong?

Is it guilt that keeps you from showing me what they should have meant?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

Gal 1
3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,


Gal 1
3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, (EDIT) our Lord Jesus Christ,




Is this oneness idea fine?

May I have the pleasure of rewording this verse for you?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

Shall we just get rid of "and the" to create our doctrine?

Let's just assume that is okay.


Now, how do we make this harmonize?....



Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Was this verse worded wrong also?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Sean

I answered him plainly, and you guys rejected it. Bias runs deep for presupposition and religion.

Originally Posted by Sean

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Originally Posted by Sean

The fact is, you guys are afraid to reword the verses I am posting to fit your H/U model.

Why don't you show me what these verses are supposed to say if I am reading them wrong?

Is it guilt that keeps you from showing me what they should have meant?

Originally Posted by Sean

May I have the pleasure of rewording this verse for you?

Originally Posted by Sean

Was this verse worded wrong also?

None of that answered what was asked.

Unreal!

Look again at the RED area.

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Sean,
I am not following the entire thread, only bump in with my questions.

But, seems like I remember you speaking about how when the scripture said something like "God and the Lord Jesus Christ", you felt that was affirmation for your doctrine.

So, I was reading this weekend and came across this:

Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

Did some checking and found this:

Now unto God and our Father be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

and

Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

if you say that in example A it means 2 then how do you view these scriptures?

[Sean]

God and our Father mean 1(God the Father).

I have been trying to tell you that all along.


Kinda like, my son saying my name first, and saying AND his father.

[Sean]

My son......"Hi folks, this is Sean and my father".

[Sean]

Now, make this 1 person somehow....



3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,

[Sean]

Like...Hi folks, blessings from Sean and from his son.



Not, Hi folks, blessings from Sean which is his son......LOL