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10-26-2017, 07:28 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
God was with God.
Whatever you insist on.
The trins read it that way also.
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10-28-2017, 06:50 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Question to H/u's.....
If the only begotten son of God was really the Father, then the son fathered himself?
Did not Nimrod mate with his mother according to legend?
Would not the beginning of H/U teachings originate in this mindset?
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10-28-2017, 06:52 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Both oneness and trin H/Us are invited to explain their thoughts of this.
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10-28-2017, 10:32 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Originally Posted by Sean
Question to H/u's.....
If the only begotten son of God was really the Father, then the son fathered himself?
Did not Nimrod mate with his mother according to legend?
Would not the beginning of H/U teachings originate in this mindset?
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Forgetful much?
You are in error because you do not acknowledge that God is His Logos, and His Logos became flesh. ( John 1:1, John 1:14)
You teach there are two (maybe more) gods because you cannot accept the One True Almighty God conceived and implemented His Logos through Jesus.
Jesus is the Savior of mankind, yet God proclaims He is the ONLY savior. ( Hosea 13:4; Isaiah 43:11-13, Isaiah 45:21-22) And this salvation is available only through Jesus. ( Acts 4:12; John 8:24; John 14:6) Thus we have God is the only Savior and Jesus is the only Savior. Using your reasoning we would have two Saviors. But when one understands the meaning of God's Logos, then they realize that this Savior is simply One God implementing His Logos plan through Jesus, which is His Logos made flesh.
This is One God 101--simple stuff.
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10-28-2017, 10:48 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Great answer to my question TK.
Now, the trins teach God the Son became a man(which Fathered Himself in Mary).
Oneness teaches God the son(Father is the son), which fathered himself in Mary.
And according to paganism....
According to her, Nimrod reincarnated himself in her womb.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...qJkG00FyzLvTxy
Notice any similarities?
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10-28-2017, 10:49 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Great answer to my question TK.
Now, the trins teach "God the Son" became a man(which Fathered Himself in Mary).
Oneness teaches "God the son" became a man(Father is the son), which Fathered Himself in Mary.
And according to paganism....
According to her, Nimrod reincarnated himself in her womb.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...qJkG00FyzLvTxy
Notice any similarities?
Last edited by Sean; 10-28-2017 at 10:54 PM.
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10-28-2017, 11:01 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Right, the Hypostatic Union theory of God the S(s)on impregnating his own mother was originally thought of in Babylon.
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5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.
Rome reworked it into Christianity.....
Hypostatic union
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The oldest known icon of Christ Pantocrator at Saint Catherine's Monastery. The two different facial expressions on either side emphasize Christ's dual nature as both divine and human.[1][2]
Composites of the two sides of the face.
Hypostatic union (from the Greek: ὑπόστασις hypóstasis, "sediment, foundation, substance, subsistence") is a technical term in Christian theology employed in mainstream Christology to describe the union of Christ's humanity and divinity in one hypostasis, or individual existence.[3]
The First Council of Ephesus in 431 AD recognized this doctrine and affirmed its importance, stating that the humanity and divinity of Christ are made one according to nature and hypostasis in the Logos.
Contents [hide]
1 Hypostasis
2 Through history
2.1 Council of Ephesus
2.2 Council of Chalcedon
2.3 Oriental Orthodox rejection of Chalcedonian Definition
3 See also
4 References
5 Sources
Hypostasis[edit]
Main article: Hypostasis (philosophy)
The Greek term hypostasis had come into use as a technical term prior to the Christological debates of the late fourth and fifth centuries. In pre-Christian times, Greek philosophy (primarily Stoicism) used the word.[4][5] Some occurrences of the term hypostasis in the New Testament foreshadow the later, technical understanding of the word.[citation needed] Although it can translate literally as "substance", this has been a cause of some confusion;[6] accordingly the New American Standard Bible translates it as "subsistence". Hypostasis denotes an actual, concrete existence, in contrast with abstract categories such as Platonic ideals.
In Kierkegaard's Philosophical Fragments, the dual nature of Christ is explored as a paradox, as "the ultimate paradox", because God, understood as a perfectly good, perfectly wise, perfectly powerful being, fully became a human, in the Christian understanding of the term: burdened by sin, limited in goodness, knowledge, and understanding.[7] This paradox can only be resolved, Kierkegaard believed, by a leap of faith away from one's understanding and reason towards belief in God; thus the paradox of the hypostatic union was crucial to an abiding faith in the Christian God.
As the precise nature of this union is held to defy finite human comprehension, the hypostatic union is also referred to by the alternative term "mystical union."
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10-29-2017, 01:05 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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10-29-2017, 07:07 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Bro, you are in trouble now!!!
Sean believes that is actually Jesus and the Holy Ghost.
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10-29-2017, 07:11 AM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Originally Posted by Sean
Right, the Hypostatic Union theory of God the S(s)on impregnating his own mother was originally thought of in Babylon.
Now......
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.
Rome reworked it into Christianity.....
Hypostatic union
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The oldest known icon of Christ Pantocrator at Saint Catherine's Monastery. The two different facial expressions on either side emphasize Christ's dual nature as both divine and human.[1][2]
Composites of the two sides of the face.
Hypostatic union (from the Greek: ὑπόστασις hypóstasis, "sediment, foundation, substance, subsistence") is a technical term in Christian theology employed in mainstream Christology to describe the union of Christ's humanity and divinity in one hypostasis, or individual existence.[3]
The First Council of Ephesus in 431 AD recognized this doctrine and affirmed its importance, stating that the humanity and divinity of Christ are made one according to nature and hypostasis in the Logos.
Contents [hide]
1 Hypostasis
2 Through history
2.1 Council of Ephesus
2.2 Council of Chalcedon
2.3 Oriental Orthodox rejection of Chalcedonian Definition
3 See also
4 References
5 Sources
Hypostasis[edit]
Main article: Hypostasis (philosophy)
The Greek term hypostasis had come into use as a technical term prior to the Christological debates of the late fourth and fifth centuries. In pre-Christian times, Greek philosophy (primarily Stoicism) used the word.[4][5] Some occurrences of the term hypostasis in the New Testament foreshadow the later, technical understanding of the word.[citation needed] Although it can translate literally as "substance", this has been a cause of some confusion;[6] accordingly the New American Standard Bible translates it as "subsistence". Hypostasis denotes an actual, concrete existence, in contrast with abstract categories such as Platonic ideals.
In Kierkegaard's Philosophical Fragments, the dual nature of Christ is explored as a paradox, as "the ultimate paradox", because God, understood as a perfectly good, perfectly wise, perfectly powerful being, fully became a human, in the Christian understanding of the term: burdened by sin, limited in goodness, knowledge, and understanding.[7] This paradox can only be resolved, Kierkegaard believed, by a leap of faith away from one's understanding and reason towards belief in God; thus the paradox of the hypostatic union was crucial to an abiding faith in the Christian God.
As the precise nature of this union is held to defy finite human comprehension, the hypostatic union is also referred to by the alternative term "mystical union."
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Isn't Sean the lamer who cries big girlie tears and posts that One God Apostolics have to use commentary? But what does this Nancy do? He uses not only commentary, but Wikipedia? Hypostatic union - Wikipedia? Sean Jesus isn't a giant in outer space, and the New Testament isn't part of the Marvel Universe.
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